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Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

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Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Oswaldo Costa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:58 am

My niece is married to a Croatian/Montenegrin architect who knows the difference between Slovenia, Slavonia e Slovakia. Having invited them to a Xmas tasting, I pulled out some potentially weirdo wines from that neck of the woods. These are wines I’ve been curious about but have little experience with. All decanted for two hours and served at around 15C (but it’s pretty warm in Sao Paulo now, so temperatures gradually rose in the glasses to about 22C).

2003 Radikon Oslavje IGT Venezia Giulia 1000ml
A blend of 40% Chardonnay, 30% Pinot Grigio and 30% Sauvignon Blanc. No SO2 added. Turbid orange. Model airplane glue and acetone aromas. Tannic, chunky mouth feel, healthy acidity, oddly hard to pinpoint a specific fruit in its fruitiness. Has an annoying yeasty finish. Like an alcoholic orange pekoe or herbal infusion.

2003 Radikon Ribolla Gialla IGT Venezia Giulia 1000ml
No SO2 added (bottle says 12mg present). Also from the House of (turbid) Orange. Very similar aromas, more subdued. Less fruity, in fact less everything, otherwise very similar to the Oslavje. More satisfying because it doesn’t have the yeasty finish (only a bit after it warms). People around the table seemed to perceive more differences between the two Radikons, but I got the impression that both spoke more of how they are made than of their respective grape varieties.

2007 Movia Lunar Ribolla Gialla Slovenia Brda 12.5%
Made by allowing whole bunches to ferment, age, and stabilize without intervention. As close to throwing everything-but-the-kitchen-sink into the kitchen sink to ferment. The moon plays a timing role that I’d rather not know about, lest I become a lunatic. Less orange, less turbid, less tannic, but much more lovely. After the Radikons’ reticence, I welcome identifiable aromas, like anis, sage, jasmine, brine, citrus and honey. Good mouth weight. Acidity and sweetness in perfect balance. Sensual and intellectual pleasures also inperfect balance, so put your money on this bona fide honey, kickass and brilliant.

2004 Movia Pinot Nero Slovenia Brda 12.5%
Exotic gunpowder infused sour cherry with cloves and a pleasantly metallic zing. Tastes herbal, with strong acidity and more tannins than your average Bourgogne. Slightly lacking in mid palate, as if a wee dilute. As it warmed, the acidity became stronger than the fruit, preventing me from swooning. But Marcia really loved it. I preferred the Lunar. To each his Movia. But try pronouncing Brda. It was satisfying (perhaps more intellectually than sensually) to drink a pinot in which the grape's peerless terroir channeling ability (yadda yadda) is allowed to express the inner child freely instead of being arm locked into transpiring gobs of oak, cocoa and alcohol.

Though not really set up as a confrontation, the tasting seemed to acquire that character as the evening progressed. The Radikons seemed, well, radical in their Spartan stone-facedness, completely unwilling to kiss ass. Not one iota, and this is a pleasure business, last I heard. In comparison, the Movias seemed almost warm and fuzzy, in a let me take you by the hand and show you a good time way. From this limited sample, I would say that I am a Movia man, who wouldn’t mind sitting in outdoor cafés in Slovakia drinking Slovenian wine aged in Slavonian oak.

As an afterthought, we moved to something completely different, a Uruguayan late harvest wine:
2005 Pisano EtxeOneko Licor de Tannat Uruguay 17.5%
Molasses, coffee, cloves, stewed prunes, tea. Surprisingly strong acidity, a good match for the powerful sweetness. Nice bitter finish. Not complex but well crafted (from a linear programming/maximisation point of view), and a bit of a revelation, considering the paucity of decent southern cone late harvest wines. A winna from down undah.
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Well....

by TomHill » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:01 am

That's a pretty weird lineup of weird wines, Oswaldo. I find the Radikons and Movias a bit frustrating to taste because it's so danged hard
to come up w/ descriptors. You did a good job on that one.
These "orange" wines are somewhat of an acquired taste. I find them absolutely fascinating...in a weird sort of way.
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Re: Well....

by Oswaldo Costa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 11:16 am

TomHill wrote:That's a pretty weird lineup of weird wines, Oswaldo. I find the Radikons and Movias a bit frustrating to taste because it's so danged hard
to come up w/ descriptors. You did a good job on that one.
These "orange" wines are somewhat of an acquired taste. I find them absolutely fascinating...in a weird sort of way.
Tom


I was relieved enough not to encounter any oxidative notes!
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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Hoke » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:09 pm

I was relieved enough not to encounter any oxidative notes!


That makes me feel a bit better, because that's usually the major drawback with the orange wines on the rare occasions I have had them, Oswaldo.

All too often I get that oxidative whiff---and I do not like it.

I am a fan of Movia though. Haven't really had enough Radikon to form an opinion.

Good notes, by the way.
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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Bill Hooper » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:13 pm

To have a Good, the Bad, and the Ugly final showdown, you would've only had to invite some Gravner. Nice notes!

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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Bernard Roth » Thu Dec 24, 2009 1:15 am

Having enjoyed one LH Tannat from Uruguay in my life, I wish they were easier to come by. Closest approximation is Spanish LH Monastrell.
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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Oswaldo Costa » Thu Dec 24, 2009 5:20 am

Bernard Roth wrote:Having enjoyed one LH Tannat from Uruguay in my life, I wish they were easier to come by. Closest approximation is Spanish LH Monastrell.


Funny you should mention that, it made me think of the Olivares Dulce Monastrell, which I quite like, and is similarly not too complex but tasty and balanced.
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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Dec 29, 2009 1:21 pm

I have had bad luck with Movia, 2 corked in a row!

That Tannat really rocks, some here in the cellar.
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Re: Shootout at the OK Corral: Radikon v. Movia

by Marcelo Maia Rosa » Tue Dec 29, 2009 4:51 pm

2003 Radikon Oslavje IGT Venezia Giulia 1000ml
Vary translucent orange colour. A propolis aromas, very floral with hints of honey, acetate and apricot. In the mouth a wave of yeast but with no bitter finish. A strange delicate tannins and a very high acidity, like look for a green pineapple. The back and taste remember the wet cardboard / wet dog. So far the most strange wine that I ever taste, is a mix of wonderful things and strange flavors. And a special point for the yeast who didn`t borrowed me, is like part of this, so is beautiful.

2003 Radikon Ribolla Gialla IGT Venezia Giulia 1000ml
exactly the same colour. In the nose is more citric, with passion fruit, more floral and a end of resign tree. The base is close to Oslavje, but without yeast. In the mouth is wonderful balance, with nuts, cellulose (like chewing paper...) and tangerine. I was confuse with the acidity after the punch of the Oslavje, but i suppose that is more evident but more lovely. This wine fore sure is more balance and pleasant, like a refined flavors and a complexity more comfortable.

2007 Movia Lunar Ribolla Gialla Slovenia Brda 12.5%
light clean yellow colour. Aromas of Jasmin, pineapple and anise, with a hint of cereal. In the mouth is delicate, beautiful, elegant. Showed a lovely taste of pitch, a gastronomic acidity, just to me your mouth prepared for the food. The back and is like a christmas cookies from the waldorf scool "Spekulatius" with spices, herbal, and a skin lemon in brown sugar! A amazing wine, a top 5 for the 2009 wine taste!

2004 Movia Pinot Nero Slovenia Brda 12.5%
Very gunpowder, with dust barnyard and a lot of cloves. Perfect moth, a strident wine, easy and vary tasty, with leather and herbal notes.

2005 Pisano EtxeOneko Licor de Tannat Uruguay 17.5%
Aromas of dark chocolate, dark tea and a lot of coffee with a hint of wood. In the mouth is vary liquorice, high acidity, high sugar not so complex but a very nice wine, the back end of black dry plum is delicious!

A special thanks Oswaldo and Marcia for this amazing gift of Christmas!!! I`m in heaven for sure with this wines!!!

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