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Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
1076
Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Oliver McCrum wrote: I think Etna is the best terroir in Sicily, and one of the best in southern Italy.
Mark Aselstine wrote:Italian wine poses a number of interesting problems, not the least of which being that they certainly don't us any favors with labeling....ok rant over.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
1076
Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Oliver McCrum wrote:I think Italian wine labels are very easy to read for consumers who are used to the New World 'variety + place' labelling, as the great majority are labelled this way (eg Roero Arneis, Fiano di Avellino). The wrinkle is that there are some very famous exceptions, eg Soave, Chianti, Barolo, and, yes, Etna Rosso. It's certainly no worse than the great majority of French labels, though.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Tim York wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:I think Italian wine labels are very easy to read for consumers who are used to the New World 'variety + place' labelling, as the great majority are labelled this way (eg Roero Arneis, Fiano di Avellino). The wrinkle is that there are some very famous exceptions, eg Soave, Chianti, Barolo, and, yes, Etna Rosso. It's certainly no worse than the great majority of French labels, though.
So what are you suggesting, Oliver? Sangiovese di Chianti Classico? Pinot Noir de Richebourg? Grenache, Mourvèdre, Syrah, Cinsault, Counoise, etc. etc. de Châteuaneuf du Pape? Come on. I would support a mention of the variety for mono-varietals in small print on the front label and details of the varieties for multi-varietals on a back label but otherwise I believe that emphasis on place is right for AOC/DOC wines.
Hoke wrote:Tim York wrote:You would probably reply that front-label blend lists would be ungainly. But having one consistent approach (back label identification) would solve the problem, and would not elevate single-varietal wines to a higher plane (front label marquee) than the more humble back-label blend list.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Tim York wrote:Hoke wrote:Tim York wrote:You would probably reply that front-label blend lists would be ungainly. But having one consistent approach (back label identification) would solve the problem, and would not elevate single-varietal wines to a higher plane (front label marquee) than the more humble back-label blend list.
You have a good point there, Hoke.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
1076
Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
Tim York wrote:Oliver McCrum wrote:I think Italian wine labels are very easy to read for consumers who are used to the New World 'variety + place' labelling, as the great majority are labelled this way (eg Roero Arneis, Fiano di Avellino). The wrinkle is that there are some very famous exceptions, eg Soave, Chianti, Barolo, and, yes, Etna Rosso. It's certainly no worse than the great majority of French labels, though.
So what are you suggesting, Oliver? Sangiovese di Chianti Classico? Pinot Noir de Richebourg? Grenache, Mourvèdre, Syrah, Cinsault, Counoise, etc. etc. de Châteuaneuf du Pape? Come on. I would support a mention of the variety for mono-varietals in small print on the front label and details of the varieties for multi-varietals on a back label but otherwise I believe that emphasis on place is right for AOC/DOC wines.
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