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WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by John S » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:45 pm

NORTHERN FANATIC FRIDAY - (20/11/2009)

The cool weather suggested a CDP theme, but as you'll see, we didn't exactly have a great deal of luck with this, so, adaptive as always, we decided to throw the theme out the window.
  • 2003 Château Fortia Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée du Baron - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
    Corked big time. NR (flawed)
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  • 2001 Domaine Font de Michelle Châteauneuf-du-Pape - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
    This was a real animal of a wine. Lots of gamy, meaty notes, some brett and quite a lot of tannins at the end of the medium palate. I like this rustic style, but others may not be so forgiving. Still young, at least in terms of the tannins, which built as the night went on. (A-)
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  • 2000 Château La Nerthe Châteauneuf-du-Pape - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
    Corked and/or cooked. Stripped of fruit and very acidic. NR (flawed)
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  • 2003 Domaine de Beaurenard (Paul Coulon et Fils) Châteauneuf-du-Pape Boisrenard - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape
    This wine was still quite young and pretty tight and tannic. Redfruits, a hint of licorice and leather and a fairly short finish meant this was was fairly tough going last night. Nice, but hopefully this will improve. Certainly no surmaturite here (B+)
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  • 1998 Fox Creek Shiraz Reserve - Australia, South Australia, Fleurieu, McLaren Vale
    Definitely an Aussie shiraz, with mint and dill (American oak, I suspect) on the nose. Nicer on the palate, with lovely texture, but still a fair bit of dill and (less so) mint. Plums, licorice and pepper too. Very nice, but I'm never a fan of dill note in Aussie shiraz, so that bumped it down for me. (B+)
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  • N.V. Emilio Lustau Jerez-Xérès-Sherry Solera P.X. - Spain, Andalucía, Jerez-Xérès-Sherry
    I haven't had a PX in a while. This was the last bottle of the night, so my memories are a little hazy, but this was a very good example. All the requisite sweetness and normal raison, dates, and molassas notes, but the saving grace was the nice lift of acidity that gave this a balanced and very long finish. Just a basic PX, so it doesn't have the complexity of more aged versions, but still great QPR. (A-)

Oh, just to add to the list of flawed wines, a 1995 Rudolph Muller auslese of some type was opened first for dessert and it was corked as well!

Was there a full moon last night or something?!? Three corked wines in a night isn't fun!

The Font de Michelle was definitely the wine of the night, even if it was my wine, and there wasn't much competition...
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by JC (NC) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:18 pm

Congratulations, John, on your 300th posting.
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by David M. Bueker » Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:46 pm

3 corked wines
3 corked wines
see how they suck...

That is really too bad John. On the other hand some of the solid wines sound very good. I remember picking up a bottle of the '98 Fox Creek Reserve Shiraz in Jasper, Alberta way back in 2000. I was not so confident in my palate back then & the critical hype got the better of me. I can still vividly recall the dill.
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by John S » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:45 pm

300 posts and counting, eh? Is that a good or bad thing?!? :wink:

David, that was back when Jasper actually had some interesting wine available. As you are probably aware, over the last few years, the quality of wine they sell there has decreased by an amazing amount! Mainly plonk now...
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by Jenise » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:50 pm

Hey John, tried a new place for dim sum last week in your neighborhood, that is the one you're in when you're back in the southland. Owner agreed to let us bring wine some time!
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by David M. Bueker » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:56 pm

John S wrote:David, that was back when Jasper actually had some interesting wine available. As you are probably aware, over the last few years, the quality of wine they sell there has decreased by an amazing amount! Mainly plonk now...


Things were better several years ago. The increase in tourism through the early 2000s blew through the good stuff. Then when the tourist trade started to collapse they had to reduce costs, so all the good shops in Jasper (and Banff for that matter) went with more mass-market brands.
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by John S » Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:58 am

Jenise wrote:Hey John, tried a new place for dim sum last week in your neighborhood, that is the one you're in when you're back in the southland. Owner agreed to let us bring wine some time!

I'll be back for a while In December, maybe we should try it out then?
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Re: WTN - Not the Best of Luck Last Night...

by Jenise » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:28 pm

John, you're on!
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