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Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Ian Sutton » Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:18 pm

A call to arms, to taste over the next week, that most shady of grapes Mourvedre.

It operates in a number of countries, often under different names and sometimes hiding behind a 'convenient' appellation name. It's called Monastrell in Spain, Mourvedre in France (widely planted across the South) and until recently in Australia and USA under the alias of Mataro (though it's now generally called Mourvedre in Australia). It even gives it's nature away in the evocative, but rarely seen alias of 'Estrangle-Chien' (Dog strangler!). It also operates surreptitiously from behind the 'front' of appellations such as Bandol, Chateauneuf-du-Pape, Collioure and Cote-de Roussillon, sometimes as a supporting 'partner in crime', other times brazenly leading the cabal. There are undoubtedly other covers that this clandestine grape hides behind.

... but what of the flavours to expect from this grape? I'm no expert so with my old copy of 'Grapes and Wines' (Clarke & Rand), I note herby comes to the fore a lot, along with dark fruits, some farmyard and a certain solid style. I've also heard leather mentioned elsewhere and with my recently acquired 'weird example', will be testing whether the suggested rubber is indeed capable of being a positive! However let's see what we find when we taste the wines!

So starting anytime from now (aiming to tail off from Sun 1st Nov) feel free to join us in tasting Mourvedre or Mourvdre *influenced wines

*Intentionally left vague - you might want to taste only pure examples, limit to wines where Mourvedre is a dominant partner, or one where you feel it might have a strong influence even as a minority but significant component of the wine.

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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Salil » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:01 pm

Love Mourvedre. I've had some really interesting and unusual wines from the grape, and it pains me that in Australia (where I've had some stellar Mourvedre, and they have some of the oldest vines on the planet) they blend so much of the stuff away into crappy GSMs.

I don't have any Mourvedre to open right now, but I have had a few great bottles in the last week that I'll share notes upon.

1993 Tempier Bandol Cuvée Spéciale La Tourtine
Ramon brought this yesterday night to a cassoulet dinner (that Dale posted notes on). Very tasty with rich cherries, blackcurrants and plum flavours with elements of leather and barnyard funk giving it a rustic, sauvage quality. Tannins quite gentle, very elegant and silky in the mouth with a polished texture and a long earthy finish.

1999 Le Galantin "Longue Gard" Bandol
At the same dinner, more dark fruited and 'cleaner' in its flavour profile than the Tempier, less interesting with mostly primary fruit and not many other nuances, but still a pleasant pairing with the cassoulet. (I should add though that my sense of smell was shot briefly by a blast of garlic from the adjacent table's escargot around the time this was poured, so my notes may not be the most accurate.)

2006 Hewitson Old Garden Mourvedre (Barossa Valley)
From a Mourvedre vineyard planted in 1853. Drank over three days; fantastic throughout with gorgeous aromatics of leather, musk and faint floral notes. The fruit is more forward in the mouth with ripe black cherry and plum flavours up front and a long, savoury earth and herb-laden finish. Everything's in perfect balance with the tannins and acid matched by the richness, and the alcohol hidden right through.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Ian Sutton » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:09 pm

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An excellent way to kick this off in style - many thanks (and a little envy :wink: )
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by David M. Bueker » Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:34 pm

It wasn't that long ago that I opened the following:

2006 Tercero Camp 4 Mourvedre
This is an interesting wine, in that it wants to be dark & rich, but stays more on the elegant side of the line, resulting in a very drinkable, food friendly (mmm...steak) red with well balanced fruit/tannin and no issues with alcoholic heat. I quite enjoyed sipping it after dinner as well.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Rahsaan » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:20 pm

I don't think I've had any Mourvedre for all of 2009! I need to diversify!
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Hoke » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:31 pm

Rahsaan wrote:I don't think I've had any Mourvedre for all of 2009! I need to diversify!


I think I may have mentioned that to you once or twice. :lol:

By the way, I miss the tastings we mutually attended in the Bay Area...poignant, since you are now on the East Coast, Yaniger is now in Austin, and I'm in Portland.

That, and I've never met your wife.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Rahsaan » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:37 pm

Hoke wrote:By the way, I miss the tastings we mutually attended in the Bay Area...poignant, since you are now on the East Coast, Yaniger is now in Austin, and I'm in Portland.

That, and I've never met your wife.


Yes, everyone is scattering!

It is quite feasible that I'll be back in the Bay Area every now and again and I'm involved in some projects with colleagues in Austin. But I need a new excuse to get up to Portland. The way you've been writing about the food it sounds quite divine (I only went once some years ago on a quick drive down the coast, with nothing much of note to eat).
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Tim York » Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:50 pm

To help get things moving here are some assorted notes from the last few months -

July 11, 2009

If I believed Draper’s ’97 back label, I should have drunk Ridge California Bridgehead Mataro 1995 – Alc.13.5% –within 4-5 years but, for me another 7 years later, it was just fine with its depth and darkening texture of spices and touches of tar together with some mature sweet dark fruit, full body and decent length. The American oak ageing was by now perfectly integrated with its only overt trace being a certain perfume on the nose. There is a family resemblance to Bandol but this was less austere and savoury and a touch sweeter in its fruit; 17/20+.

September 23, 2008

Bandol Cuvée Spéciale 1997 – Domaine Tempier – is certainly my second ranking wine of the month so far after Terre Brune 1994 on which I wrote a separate enthusiastic WTN. Easy drinking like a lot of 1997s and quite succulent, it showed rich dark fruit and attractive aromas of leather and tar together with enough structure and grip for balance; this is only Tempier’s basic cuvée and I am expecting greater things from my bottles of Migoua, Tourtine and Cabassou; 16.5/20++.

March 24, 2008

Château de Pibarnon – Bandol AOC – 1998 – Alc. 13% - (€ 25 for 2004).

The estate consists of 44 hectares of red grapes, of which 90% are Mourvèdre and 10% Grenache, and 4 hectares of white Clairette. http://www.pibarnon.com/ .

C: Mature carmine but not quite limpid (my fault for not standing up the bottle long enough before decanting).
N: Dark red rose petals, tar, leather and liquorice.
P: Restrained dark fruit, good density, depth, structure, harmonious shape in the mouth and length showing similar aromas to the nose together with some Provence herbs. As always, this Pibarnon combines aromatic complexity and meridional sun with classical restraint and elegance. I consistently admire and enjoy Pibarnon but have never been really excited by it as by some Tempier. 16.5/20.

November 11, 2007

Bandol AOC 1997 – Château Vannières – Alc. 13% - (EUR 23,75 for 2002). Estate’s red vines 75% Mourvèdre, 25% Grenache.

Reports for at least two years following the vintage declared that Mourvèdre was very successful in 1997 due to the fine Autumn and that, consequently, Bandol was an exception to the generally uninspiring results that year in the South of France; more recent reports have been far less favourable. On the strength of the early reports and the odd tasting I bought quite a few bottles of various Bandols and buried them in a bin under a lot of other bottles for earlier drinking. This is the first I have tried since their youth.

C: Fine deep red with no bricking.
N: On first sniff strong barnyard aromas but with about 30 minutes air dark fruit came up and integrated nicely with a residual wet leather notes.
P: Fully open by now and showing complex dark fruit aromas mixed with leather, muslin dust and tar with rose petal and faint provençal herb overtones. Generously mouth-filling with ripe structure, class and typically Bandol hints of austerity, but perhaps less of the last than in a more rigorous vintage. Ripely enjoyable and tending to support the earlier thesis of exceptional Mourvèdre in 1997 while showing some of the “easy” character of that vintage in most parts of France. 16.5/20.

November 2, 2007

Cairanne Côtes du Rhône Villages « Haut Coustias » 1998 - Domaine de l’Oratoire Saint-Martin (F&F.Alary) - Alc. 13% . (EUR 13,95 only for 2005 vintage).


To accompany our All Saints’ dinner of deliciously tender lamb, I pulled out this bottle and contrived to start November’s villages on a high note.

This blend of 60% Mourvèdre, 20% Grenache and 20% Syrah 65 year old vines is far from being a run-in-the mill Côtes du Rhône villages (“CDRV”). The Alary brothers are bending the appellation rules which demand 50% Grenache minimum and, in doing so, attain an elegance and class which is rare in Cairanne, let alone other CDRVs. Haut-Coustias can seem quite austere when young and previous bottles of 1998 have up to now been holding something back but, after nine years, this one delivers.


C: Still quite deep ruby red with no perceptible bricking in the rim. (There was a lot of dark cherry coloured sediment sticking to the lower side of the bottle, no doubt partly the product of no fining nor filtration.)

N: Quite reserved but all there with a beautifully round and complex medley of red and dark fruit with dashes of tar and provençal herbs.

P: Again not particularly big but deep, round and velvety woven with many but integrated aromatic strands out of which I thought that I detected cherry,kirsch, raspberry coulis, rose petals, sweet plum, cooked tomato, tar, basil and other local herbs. Structure is more present than in a Grenache dominated wine but resolved and, unusually, the aromatics are more pronounced towards the finish and on the after taste than on the nose.

The generous elegance of this wine reminds me a little of a slightly less sweet and less wooded version of a traditional Rioja. I doubt whether the Wine Advocate/Spectator school of criticism would allow it more points than the mid/upper eighties because it is insufficiently spectacular. However, for me, and for once Germaine agrees, this is a lovely wine at its peak; 17/20 and first class QPR. I must order the 2005.




There may be others which I can't locate right now. I love Bandol so this Open Mike is not going to be any hardship at all :D .
The challenge is to find good Mourvèdre examples from elsewhere.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:03 am

Wow, I am gone for a day and miss all the action. Nice intro from Ian of course, great to see Tim has found his legs after the trip!!

Guess what, I am going to finally have a grand-daughter! Yippee.

As you are all in the Bandol mood, here is the TN on a terrific Suffrene Rose. June `09.

WTN: `07 Domaine La Suffrene Bandol Rose.

Cedric Gravier, 5th generation, up-and-coming producer. $28 Cdn, good cork, Mourvedre 40%-Cinsault 30%-Grenache 20%-Carignon 10%.
Opened for an hour and as usual with this kinda wine decided not to serve too chilled. I want to taste what going on here!

Color. Tough but guess sort of deep brick brown. Sure not salmon!

Nose. Immediately on opening, floral meadow. Strawberry and fruit gums. Some herbal as it airs, very appealing.

Palate. Initial entry thought was white pepper, fresh, cranberry. Good length on the finish and nice fruit here. Not completely dry and shows well structured complexity. Not a tangy style like a previous vintage, " has a ripe berry fruit edge" from across the table. I usually think licorice when I taste mourvedre but maybe tomorrow when I finish off the bottle?
Have to think I expected more from this wine, now if I could find some Tempier!
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by Tim York » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:16 am

Congratulations, Bob, on the imminent grand-daughter. When is she due?
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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:10 pm

Thanks Tim, 6 months away I believe. Might be some complications so already talking cesarean (spelling)?

The challenge is to find good Mourvèdre examples from elsewhere.

Good point Tim, I might take a look at a Gil from Spain. Pickings not that great hereabouts. I thought I had more selection in the cellar.
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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:22 am

I was in DeVines today and looked around for the Late-harvest Mourvedre (split) from Cline. I was out of luck but suggest that those forumites close to Chambers St. might be more fortunate. Feel sure other places might have this in stock too.
I last tasted this wine about a year ago. Cocoa, chocolate, ripe black fruits, an amazing wine for me.
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by Carl Eppig » Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:04 am

At one point in time we drank Phil Staley's practically as an everday drinker. Unforturnately he doesn't make it anymore. For a domestic now we turn to Terre Rouge. We also drink a lot of Monastrell both straight and in blends.
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by Agostino Berti » Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:35 pm

You can also comment on my related Bandol post. I'm looking for some real Bandol-heads!!
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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:07 pm

Agostino Berti wrote:You can also comment on my related Bandol post. I'm looking for some real Bandol-heads!!


Have you any notes on the `99 vintage? I have one Bunan in the drink-up section of the cellar. Very much a so-so year I believe. Probably open later this week?
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Ian Sutton » Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:57 pm

I was worried this would be painfully young, but thankfully just youthfully tight! Opened not long after exiting the wine fridge, so might revisit as it warms up.

2005 La Bastide Blanche Bandol - France, Provence, Bandol (10/26/2009)
Quite deep, but slightly dull purple colour
On the nose, black fruits & leather with a pleasant enough high-toned furniture polish element.
The palate shows good deep, savoury black fruit and some enjoyable herbyness and some violet, oddly not seen on the nose. The tannins aren't aggressive, but do work with the acidity to give clear structure and grip. The finish has a decent length, but is also very much kept in line by the tannin. I'm not surprised by this - rather I'd feared this wine being tighter at a young age.

Overall pretty classy & will hunt this down again. If cellaring this, whilst it can be drunk now, I'd be tempted to leave it 4-6 years or more.
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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:55 am

Buying the Gil Jumilla Monastrell I just have to add this comment which a staff member at DeVines found on the internet....>

"this monastrell grape tastes something like a cross between a mourvedre and a syrah".
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Ian Sutton » Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:29 am

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I saw this recently on Toby (and Richard) Bailey's 'Fine Wine diary' website (p.s. a great resource with old world focus):
Assistant: "Can I help you Sir? This Spanish Crianza is very good."
Me (slightly bored): "Really? Who's the producer?"
Assistant: "Bodegas. Great guy - really knows what he's doing!"

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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Oct 27, 2009 10:43 am

Yeah, I saw that. Reminds me of the time I was in a store holding a bottle of Barolo up against the light.

"Its a red wine sir"
"Yeah, I can see that. Nice Barolo I think"
"Where you looking for the white?"
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by Tim York » Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:24 am

Here is a NWR true tale in the same vein.

A Scottish colleague stumbles into a Rome police station after a night out on the tiles.

Can you please tell me the way to my hotel? Its name is Albergo

He only found his hotel when the police registration slips came in next day.
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by Mark Lipton » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:32 pm

Tonight, after an extended evening of Halloween festivities at the city park with Andrew, we assembled a late dinner of soup and croque monsieurs and opened with it:

2000 Ch. La Roque Pic St. Loup Cuvée des Vielles Vignes de Mourvedre
nose: brambly blueberry fruit, pencil lead, minerals, slightly medicinal
palate: medium body, firm acidity, smooth finish

This wine, a Kermit Lynch import (KL has without question the best portfolio of Mourvedre in the US, what with his extensive list of Bandols as well as this quality producer from the Languedoc), has been a perennial favorite in our household, and this bottle didn't disappoint. Pretty recognizable Mourvedre character and good structure lead to a pleasant drinking experience. It might have been better suited to a meal of roast wild boar, but even with our makeshift dinner it was quite fine.

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by Bob Parsons Alberta » Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:29 am

I had originally planned Cantonese roast duck but ended up half roasting then braising the cut pieces with a blueberry sauce. It did have a nice spice marinade however.
I choose 2 wines to go with this excellent bird!

WTN: `06 Juan Gil Jumilla Silver Label, Spain.

100% Monastrell, $26 Cdn, 14.5% alc, Lot# 128. Good natural cork, opened one hour and decanted.

Color. Deep red-ruby, purple edges.

Nose. Pepper, leather, blackfruits, some oak, tea. "Smoke, violets, tobacco" from across the table. Not much change overnight.

Palate. Initial entry thoughts were dry, blueberry, medium tannins, spice, cherry. Pretty well full-bodied but needs some time. "Savoury finish and needs food". I thought it went well with the duck but this red seem to close down after an hour?

Day 2......some chocolate, more tannins, blackberry and some ripeness on the finish. Might well buy 2 more and cellar 2 yrs.

I had some duck left over so I sauteed some chicken breasts and basted with some left over sauce.

WTN: `08 Road 13 Riesling VQA Okanagan Valley BC.

12.8% alc, $25 Cdn, SC, opened half hour. 3% Schoenberger, rest Riesling.

Color. Medium lemon, noted some tiny bubbles.

Nose. Quite floral, aromatic, mineral element. "Guava, pear here". Hint of petrol and grapefruit. Appeals.

Palate. Slight hint of effervescence, very good bracing acidity, dryish. Served well chilled quite crisp and refreshing but lacks structure of a German riesling. Thats OK, this is the Canadian style!
Tangerine and grapefruit on the finish, "too tart...should age well with all this acidity" thought fellow taster.

With the food, way too overpowering but guess some other riesling might work. Next time I will try a Pinot Gris but omit the rich fruit sauce.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:42 am

Rutherglen Estates in Australia make a very interesting Mourvedre based blend, the Reunion. I intend to open the `05 asap but today I met the rep who was touting the new `06 vintage. The winery website is obviously quite excited!

"An unusual version of a traditional blend, Mourvedre, Shiraz and Grenache, is dominated by mourvedre and displays aromas and flavours of truffles, pepper, spice and red berry fruits, with subtle hints of vanilla, and a fresh lingering finish."

It seemed to be a tad lighter than the `05 I mentioned which when initially tasted at the Grill last year was quite a bruiser. It will be interesting to see what it drinks like when I get around to opening!

I have to say I was quite impressed with the sample poured today.
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Re: Open Mike - Mourvedre - would you trust this grape?

by Kyrstyn Kralovec » Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 am

I stumbled upon a bottle of 100% Mourvedre in a supermarket in Kolymbari (west Crete) about a month ago. Produced by the Monestary of Agarathos, I was sufficiently impressed that I've since purchase two more bottles (just opened the second one last night to have with a bun-less burger topped with feta and roasted red peppers, with a side of roasted zucchini). The year is 2007. The price was somewhere around 8 euros (I think).

I found the nose to be the most interesting aspect, with lots of dark fruit and forest like aromas of snapped, green branches and bush berries. The palate is initially weak compared to the nose, but seems to deepen with some air. Given time I noticed lots of fruit balanced by mild tannins and acidity. I'll be finishing the bottle tonight with some pizza comprised of pretty much the same as was the burger (feta, red peppers, zucchini).
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