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New York Wine Report 2:

by Tony Fletcher » Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:45 pm

While I was happy to check out a couple of interesting new wineries at the Hunter Mountain Microbrew and Wine Fest on September 27 (see first reporta t http://www.wineloverspage.com/forum/village/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27513), I was equally pleased to see a few familiar faces: specifically, HERON HILL and STANDING STONE, two of the better vineyards from what could rightly claim to be New York’s premium wine-making region, the Finger Lakes, in the far northern reaches of the State.

The last time I tasted with HERON HILL, it was in their new tasting room on Seneca Lake. (Read that report, from 2006, here.) Interestingly, I found my notes from the Hunter Festival to be consistent with that last experience. The 2007 ECLIPSE WHITE (now a blend of 47% Chardonnay, 29% Pinot Blanc, and 24% Pinot Grigio) was again clean, precise, friendly and pure, with some bright apple flavors and refreshing minerality. The 2007 INGLE VINEYARD RIESLING, named for the winery’s premium, sustainably-operated vineyard west of Canandalgua Lake, was very very light in color but had really vibrant - I jotted down the word “fantastic” - apple flavors, with just the slightest (1.7%RS) hint of sweetness. At $13, this was an absolute bargain, and I’m not surprised to know that it’s won its share of awards. It is, however, but one of several different Rieslings turned out by wine-maker Thomas Laszlo, including a 2007 SEMI-SWEET RIESLING made, so I was led to believe, under duress, to satiate the tastes of those who can’t drink wine without a hefty dose of sugar. (That would, per my last post, include many of those in attendance at Hunter.) So forewarned, I didn’t imagine much liking this wine, but it was, I noted with damning faint praise, “actually quite pleasant,” and at $13, again well-priced.

Heron Hill’s other Rieslings include entry-level Dry and Semi-Dry Rieslings at similarly low prices and, just in case you think they’re a little too generous, a Late Harvest 2006 Ingle Vineyard Riesling at $50 and a 2003 Riesling Ice Wine (hand-harvested in Mid-December) at a stunningly expensive $100. You won’t be surprised to know that neither of these dessert wines were on pour at Hunter. There was, however, a 2007 VIDAL BLANC LATE HARVEST, 9.5% alcohol and 13.5% RS, a little more powerful than the 2005 version I tasted back at the winery. A caked pineapple and apricot aroma led into a luscious little with with a light and delicate finish, some sugar sticking amiably to the back palate. Pleasantly priced at $20.

Heron Hill produces a couple of Pinot Noirs each year and just introduced its first Blaufrankisch, both grapes that I believe can do well in the Finger Lakes with a good winemaker. Neither, sadly, were on pour at Hunter. Instead, I made do with the 2005 ECLIPSE RED, a roughly 50-50 blend of Long Island Merlot and Finger Lakes Cabernet Franc. “Nice purple color and well-rounded plump taste,” I wrote, “but I’m not sure I actually like this more than (a similar blend from) Silver Stream.” I notice that it’s been reduced to just $14 online, at which price it’s another bargain. Based on the sole taste, my jury remains out on the reds, but I came away once again extremely impressed by Heron Hill’s whites.

Over to STANDING STONE, whose 2008 RIESLING, from limestone and shale soil, was much more golden in color than that of Heron Hill, offered up ripe pear flavors as well as good acidity. The 2.5% Residual Sugar was barely noticeable. OR, as the winery itself notes, “While the residual sugar says “semi dry” many are fooled into believing it is dry.” Highly satisfying to the pocket book, too, at just $14.

While talking to the pourer and recollecting my fondness for Standing Stone’s Cabernet Franc and my disappointment at visiting the winery on a wet November Saturday in 2005 only to find myself in the company of a bus full of drunken tourists, a bottle of 2007 CABERNET FRANC mysteriously emerged from behind the counter. (It was neither on the tasting sheet nor for sale). Purple in color, I got bell pepper and spice when I stuck my nose in the glass, but I found it a little light – “very modest” – on the palate, despite the oak ageing. That said, it was true to the varietal and not overwhelmed by the wood. $20.

Standing Stone’s 2006 PINNACLE RED is 80% dominated by Cabernet Sauvignon, a grape that’s typically a disaster in the Finger Lakes (I’ve tasted some clunkers) but which appears to thrive in Standing Stone’s “Banana Belt” location. Certainly, and for all that there was some strawberry poking through – sometimes a sign of under-ripe Cab Sauvignon - this wine quickly belied its northern State roots, with blackcurrant flavors taking over and some cedar-tobacco elements rounding out a very smooth wine. I noted that it was, in some ways, more redolent of Cab Franc (of which there’s only 10% in the blend, the remaining being Merlot) than Cab Sauvignon. I’ll put that down to the cooler climate. Just 12.2% alcohol but most impressive in flavor, and more-than-fairly priced at $23.

Finally, the 2008 VIDAL ICE comes from grapes picked after “they have frozen several times,” but before they have frozen completely. (I.e., not as late in the season as those of Heron Hill.) Very very very golden in color, it exuded caramel and toffee flavors with honey, too, succulent on the palate with a waxy, sugary, marzipan finish. Both the Vidal and Vignoles grapes thrive in the Finger Lakes, reaching – especially in their Late Harvest and Ice Wine versions – a thrilling exuberance worthy of serious consideration. This was an exceptional wine and well worth its $25 tag.

Late in the afternoon, I stumbled (not drunkenly, I hasten to add) upon another Finger Lakes winery, one of which I’d somehow not noticed on previous visits to the region, despite its central location in Watkins Glen off of Seneca Lake. CASCATA WINERY was founded by a couple of college professors back in 1995, one of whom has subsequently passed away. I was highly impressed by both the “very vibrant fruit” in the 2008 DRY RIESLING and the “more orangey and spicey flavors” of the 2008 GEWURZTRAMINER, grapes grown in Seneca Lake if not necessarily by Cascata itself. (Though at $18, I can’t recommend the Riesling above those of Heron Hill or Standing Stone.) I then allowed myself to taste a 2007 RED BOUQUET comprised of Foch, Leon Millot and Baco Noir. “Very acidic” I noted before swiftly moving on.

And yet, should that sound like an indictment of red hybrid grapes, we should back up to CASCADE MOUNTAIN WINERY which, like its Hudson Valley neighbors Adair and Whytecliffe, is passionate about its hybrids, which appear to be so well-suited to the local soil. A VINTAGE SEYVAL BLANC, raised in stainless steel, is typically light in color with juicey grapefruit and grassy tones, like an early harvest Sauvignon Blanc. A lovely picnic wine. The PRIVATE RESERVE WHITE blends Chardonnay and Seyval Blanc, with some oak ageing although, I have to say, to lesser effect. The VINTAGE COUER DE LION is predominantly Foch with some Cabernet Sauvignon in the blend; I’ve been highly impressed by this in the past, feeling that it lives up to its Beaujolais-like ambitions, and was happy to see that the winery had sold out of it by late Sunday afternoon, if disappointed not to taste it agian. There was still some VINTAGE PRIVATE RESERVE RED, which I believe to be 60% Cab Sauvignon, 40% Foch, and oak-aged; it had a pleasing peppery element to balance out its strawberry-blackcurrant notes. While I recognize that the blending of classic vinifera with widely disparaged hybrid might appear blasphemous, do yourself the favor of tasting Cascade’s wines if you get the chance. Year in, year out, they do a great job.

Passing over a handful of wineries that concentrate almost exclusively on fruit wines, I’ll conclude with those of BROTHERHOOD, which loves to announce itself as “America’s oldest winery.” Brotherhood makes such a wide assortment of wines, from grapes up and down the State including its own location south of Newburgh, that I tend to figure they can’t be any good, and yet they typically prove otherwise. The CARPE DIEM SPUMANTE, made from Moscato, had a delicious orange note, pronounced zest and proved itself a delightful little bubbly for just $13. The 2006 PINOT NOIR lays claim to being “Burgundian,” and while it has none of the ethereal subtlety of that region, its dark cherry flavors and full body demonstrate the ongoing potential for the grape in New York State (especially in the Finger Lakes, from which I believe these grapes came). And I’ve come to learn that Brotherhood does an excellent job with its CABERNET SAUVIGNON, grapes from Long Island, which in this 2006 example, was thin in color but strong in flavor, with good body, well-rounded texture and succulent dark fruit.

Thanks to Hunter Mountain for gifting me a couple of comp passes and enabling me to taste through such a variety of New York Wines, from Long Island to the Finger Lakes and back to our local Hudson Valley.
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Dale Williams » Mon Oct 19, 2009 12:32 pm

Thanks for notes, I've quite enjoyed Standing Stone. Not so Brotherhood, glad your experiences were different
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Brian K Miller » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:32 pm

I known it would be like "bringing coals to Newcastle," but I wish we had more opportunities to try New York wines on the West Coat (I did like the one Dry Riesling I was able to try)
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Joe Moryl » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:50 pm

Thanks for your report on this festival, Tony. Just a few questions and observations.

Was Millbrook present? They have been just about the only Hudson Valley producer I've enjoyed on a regular basis. However, I did visit their tasting room last year and was quite underwhelmed by what I was given.

Heron Hill Ingle Vineyard has been a must buy for me for several years. In previous years it normally runs about 2.5% RS, so it sounds like they have actually gone to a slightly drier style. Ages well too. Ever since they invested big $$$ in their facility I have been expecting more of their other wines; the expectations were heightened when they hired Lazlo. What did happen was their pricing structure bifurcated into cheap wines that generally weren't very interesting and more expensive wines that could be OK but were overpriced. At one time the Ingle Vineyard Riesling was being sold at $25 (after it won some award) - maybe they have returned to their senses regarding prices? I do think they are trying to sell that Blaufrankish for something like $35; I've heard it is grossly overoaked. Wonder what the real story is regarding the departure of Lazlo just before harvest? They have recently annonced the hiring of a French winemaker from LI.

It is funny, but the Standing Stone CF is often their weakest red. Maybe because it is made entirely from bought in grapes? Pinnacle, on the other hand, is quite consistently good, even in years where one wouldn't expect (like 2006). Again, this will age well, but pity about that synthetic cork. See my recent TN on the 2002 (a good vintage in the FL too): viewtopic.php?f=3&t=27201&start=0

Cascata? Stuff for the passing tourist trade, mostly.

Everything I have ever tried from Brotherhood was undrinkable, so things must be improving there.
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Mark S » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:10 am

Tony Fletcher wrote:... the Finger Lakes, in the far northern reaches of the State.


Central New York, Tony, Central

Your downstate bias is showing here. You'd have to drive another 2-3 hours or so to reach the far north, and by that time, you'd be approaching Montreal. :wink:
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Tony Fletcher » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:50 am

Glad to see this sparked some comments. Obviously, this was not exactly a high-end tasting, but we make do with what we can. (To be fair to my surroundings there ARE some serious wine events in the Hudson Valley; they often don't coincide with my own schedule.)

Joe: Millbrook was not present, it's probably beneath them(!). I visited the winery recently and am hoping to write that up. Your comments about HEron Hill are interesting. The pourer kept talking about their wine-maker and how he doesn't like making sweet wines for tourists - then on the web site I noticed a new wine-maker had just been brought in. Yet it didn't clarify whether they had let the previous one go. Your comments suggested that they did. You're right: the Blaukfankisch is asking $35. Good luck. But the Ingle is only $15 and that's a fantastic price. Your comments about Standing Stone explain a lot. Appreciate your sharing that note about the 02.

Joe and Dale: I would never go out of my way for Brotherhood. IN fact, these were the very last wines I tasted and I know the winery well enough to have only sampled these three out of perhaps six on show. But I maintain that they did an okay job on the three I sampled. All things being relative - i.e., no other Pinot Noirs to compare with on the day, and barely a Cab Sauv.

And to Mark: I apologize. Oddly, now that I live in the Catskills, I think of myself as more "upstate" and understand a lot of the economic issues that seemed so distant when I lived in the CIty. The FInger Lakes is New York's furthest north major wine region; how's that?

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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Howie Hart » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:05 am

Tony Fletcher wrote:...The Finger Lakes is New York's furthest north major wine region; how's that?
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I would take issue with that. The Niagara Escarpment AVA is farther North than the Finger Lakes and an American extension of Ontario's Niagara Peninsula. Here's a link: http://www.niagarawinetrail.org/
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Mark S » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:20 am

Howie Hart wrote:
Tony Fletcher wrote:...The Finger Lakes is New York's furthest north major wine region; how's that?
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I would take issue with that. The Niagara Escarpment AVA is farther North than the Finger Lakes and an American extension of Ontario's Niagara Peninsula. Here's a link: http://www.niagarawinetrail.org/



And Howie, don't forget to add the I-81/St. Lawrence corridor of hybrid wineries popping up Watertown and north!
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Jon Peterson » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:37 am

Thank you for the nice detailed notes, Tony. You brought back some distant memories - I was at Brotherhood in the mid 1970s well before I was seriously into wine.
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Tony Fletcher » Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:35 pm

Mark and howie

Good naturedly, over a glass of Baco Noir or Cayuga perhaps (!!), I'll take issue back with you. Last time round, I chose my phrase more carefully. I honestly genuinely truly believe that New York has but three major wine-making regions: Long Island, Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes.

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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Howie Hart » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:44 pm

Tony Fletcher wrote:Mark and howie

Good naturedly, over a glass of Baco Noir or Cayuga perhaps (!!), I'll take issue back with you. Last time round, I chose my phrase more carefully. I honestly genuinely truly believe that New York has but three major wine-making regions: Long Island, Hudson Valley, Finger Lakes.

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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Joe Moryl » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:12 pm

Tony,

Here is some info on the new winemaker at Heron Hill: http://lennthompson.typepad.com/lenndev ... annac.html . Reading between the lines, it does sound like the circumstances of Lazlo's leaving were a bit strange. BTW, the Lenndevours blog is a good source of info on the NYS wine scene, even if it is a bit boosterish.
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Re: New York Wine Report 2:

by Jon Leifer » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:56 pm

Tony..you need to check out the Pinot Noirs coming out of the Niagara area...I would say that the 3 major wine areas in NY are Long Island, Finger Lakes and Niagara...I have not been impressed by anything coming out of the Hudson Valley..and that includes Millbrook. Your mileage may vary
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