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Something Old Something New--some values and some extravagance

by Ruth B » Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:46 pm

Our happy group of tasters are getting a little too good at identifying which wine is which if all that they have to do is match up wines with vintages etc, so I tossed a curve this weekend.

The tasters were given two wines in each flight, one old world and one new world. They got points for knowing which was which, an extra point for knowing which country and what vintage and a bonus point for nailing the actual wine itself.

A few notes are below

served with assorted cheeses

1995 Pol Roger Cuvee Sir Winston Churchill Brut--this was not in the old/new since we thought it unfair to the new world wine. This is a delightful full bodied champagne, with enough toast to keep me happy but a few bright notes as well. Clean and wonderful finish.


1998 Taittinger
A hint of baked crusty bread and a touch of apricot, nice wine, easily identified as French.

NV Domaine Chandon Blanc de Noirs Brut
A hint of cherry, nice and fresh if a little short on any lingering finish it is still a decent value.

Appetizer— fried zucchini flowers stuffed with mozzarella di bufala served on a bed of greens

2003 Domaine Weinbach Schlossberg Grand Cru Riesling
Peach, passion fruit, vanilla and a slight petrol component.
note that one of our tasters identified this wine without clues. I found the finish a little dissappointing.

2003 Château Ste. Michelle-Dr. Loosen Eroica Riesling
Lovely aromas -- light to medium-bodied with some spices on a lingering finish. This fooled a number of tasters into thinking it was old world and showed nicely.

Primo—wild mushroom and white truffle risotto

2004 d'Arenberg The Feral Fox Pinot Noir
Initial nutmeg and asian spice, some earthy notes below and toasty French oak. This wine showed remarkably well with a full palate--deep and juicy with black cherry flavour and good structure.
This is a great value for us.

1996 Beaune 1er Cru Clos du Roi .
A very nice Burg with plenty of classic character. Elegantly simply with enough fruit to go longer. Another good price point

Entrée—Pollo al Vin Cotto served with rosemary grilled tomatoes and marinated summer squash

1998 Tenuta dell'Ornellaia Masseto.
One taster remarked that you could taste the clay soils and not in a complementary way - for others though, the wine is powerful, complex and wonderful. This is a big wine with lots of time left. It remains elegant and balanced.
Expensive but delish

2003 Duckhorn Napa Valley Merlot.
This big Merlot showed ripe black cherry and plum fruit, cassis. It has lots of structure and a terrific mouth feel. Very popular with the tasters, one person thought it might be a Masseto. Not cheap (less than $80 Cdn) but not nearly the ticket price of the Masseto.

Dolce—chocolate waffles with hazelnut gelato

Fonseca Guimaraens 1976.
This is still a fruit bomb, deep dark and purple. Think in terms of Lava cakes and kirsch. Still very tannic and robust with a lovely finish.

d'Arenberg Vintage Fortified Shiraz 2000.
Very mixed reviews on this from 'WOW' to 'I don't like this'. It is spicy, black pepper, blackberry jam nose streaked with prunes. It is a little bit hot and no one thought it was from Portugal, but another decent value for people who like big fruit fortified wines.

A fun night all around.

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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extravagance

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:07 pm

Some pretty good wines there Ruth!! Some of those wines look familar to me, courtesy of DeVines?? Nice.
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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extravagance

by Ruth B » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:20 pm

Hi Bob,
Both of the Rieslings, the Guimaraens, and the Feral Fox are from DeVine, the Massetto and the Beaune are from the Wine Cellar and I think the rest were 125st Liquor Store but there might be one from Cristalls. I have had some of these wines for a while so I would have to check the labels on the back!
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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extrav

by Saina » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:37 pm

Thanks for the notes! I've tasted only the 2001 Masseto but didn't find it delish - but that's just my posish! Have you tried the 01? Change of style? I thought the 01 utterly spoofed with no hint of earth or grape or area or elegance or anything infact but oak and overripeness.

And one clarification: Beaune 1er Cru Clos du Roi was from which producer?

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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extravagance

by OW Holmes » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:52 pm

Sounds like great fun, Ruth. Thanks for the notes.
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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extrav

by Jenise » Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:57 pm

Ruth, if no one else has asked, which producer on that Clos du Roi?

Fun theme. Our old Los Angeles group did that theme last month. I wasn't there, but I understand there were a few disappointments in that the old world choices some people made were very new world in style, so the comparison fell somewhat short of expectations.
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by Ruth B » Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:23 am

Cornu Camus
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Re: Something Old Something New--some values and some extrav

by Jenise » Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:09 pm

Hey, that's okay. You know what, there is a woman winemaker in Burgundy who one day taught me the best lesson about wine anyone ever taught me and Clos du Roi was her favorite vineyard. I spent a single portion of an afternoon with her, but in that short space I fell in love with her in a daughter-mother way. I wanted to be adopted. Anyway, the name has had a magical quality for me ever since and I have envied every bottle of Clos du Roi anyone ever mentions, including yours!
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