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WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Oswaldo Costa » Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:16 am

A dinner was held on August 20, 2008, at Varanda Grill, a São Paulo steak house, to taste the wines of Laura Catena. Ms. Catena was present and made a short and charming presentation. She described how she developed high standards when she was 20 years old and a medical school student in the US because her father (Nicolas Zapata) gave her a credit card exclusively so that she could buy the best wine in order to “study the competition.” She found that the wine she liked the most all came from old vines, so she began to seek out the oldest vines she could find upon her return to Argentina. These tended to be scattered in minuscule properties, so she began to work with these small landowners and buy their fruit, beginning a collaboration that continues to this day and is a source of great satisfaction to her. All of Laura Catena’s wines are aged exclusively in French oak (thank you!).

2006 Luca Chardonnay Altos de Mendoza 14% US Price $26/Brazil price $70
Golden straw color. Lovely acacia honey, citrus and light vanilla nose. First taste is tart and a tad dilute, perhaps the wine is still too cold. As it warms, and after food, it comes into better balance, and the previously subtle oak starts to become more prominent. Glycerin soap notes towards the end. A surprisingly delicate wine, integrating its alcohol very well, but the fruit in the mouth did not live up to its promise in the nose, even at room temperature. Good but, at this level, I prefer the more muscular and fruity Vina Cobos Bramare chardonnay.

2006 La Posta del Vinatero Angel Paulucci Vineyard Malbec Mendoza 14% US Price $14/Brazil price $25
Dark cherry color. Strong cherry and light violet aromas. Good acid/fruit balance and a touch of barnyard and green stems. Good quality but relatively one or two dimensional. Decent QPR, but nothing to rush out and buy.

2007 Luca Pinot Noir Altos de Mendoza 14.5% US Price $26/Brazil price $47
Translucent cherry color. Very subdued nose, giving nothing away. Extremely soft, smooth, seductive mouth feel. Cocoa with caramel edges (Marcia says crème brulée). Classy and very different from any other pinot I have ever tried. Marcia is disappointed by the lack of burgundian characteristics, but pinot is unequaled at expressing terroir, and that is excellent here, just very different from Burgundy. I am also amazed at how there is no trace of excess alcohol, despite the highest content of the evening. Amazingly well integrated, and a lesson in how high alcohol, per se, is no fault. My WOTN.

2006 Luca Syrah Altos de Mendoza 14.4% US Price $24/Brazil price $43
Dark purple color. Smells like teen spirit, I mean, malbec. Prominent chocolate and oak vanilla. Young, aggressive, tannic, astringent. Good fruit but somewhat straightforward. Muscular, but lacks complexity at this point, though some might develop with age. Marcia’s WOTN.

2006 Luca Malbec Altos de Mendoza 14% US Price $26/Brazil price $47
Dark violet color. Lovely smell, mingling chocolate with a touch of gasoline. Taste is classy but delivers less than smell. Less tannic than the syrah, but still astringent. Crème brulée/burnt sugar notes develop toward the end. I would place this on the same level as the Catena Alta Malbec. Good, but far from Achàval-Ferrer Finca level. Can’t help thinking that monovarietals are unequalled when the terroir is great, otherwise they can have difficulty competing with the easier complexity of assemblages.

2003 Beso de Dante Altos de Mendoza 13.9% US Price $45/Brazil price $70
The only assemblage of the evening, a mix of 80% cabernet and 20% malbec. Dark purple color. Curious aroma of slightly rotten apples or overly mature fruit. Good mouth feel, very tannic, complex and rich but somewhat reserved, possibly emerging from a dumb phase. Chocolate and sour cherry dominate the palate, with a sweet finish. Clearly the most age worthy of the evening’s wines, though the comparison may be unfair because this is the only one with some age. But I find this more intellectual than hedonistic and, at this price, I’m not sufficiently impressed to want some.

When Laura Catena came to our table, I complimented her on the pinot and its surprising integration of the high alcohol; she said she loves it too, and only wishes she could produce more, but the plot is minuscule. As for the alcohol, she said that the very high altitude of the vineyard generates an acidity that balances it (but many Mendoza vineyards are extremely high and yet taste excessively alcoholic to me, so I’m not sure that’s the answer). On the subject of acidity, since Argentina just beat Brazil in Olympic soccer, I felt comfortable asking Laura about reports that 2006 was the first vintage in recent memory that didn’t require acidulation. She didn’t appear too pleased with the question but said that her pinots never require acidulation, a practice that she claims to eschew. She then moved on to the next table.
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Re: WTNs: six wines from Laura Catena

by JC (NC) » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:13 am

Thanks for the detailed notes. The Pinot Noir does sound very attractive. I will look for it.
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Mark Noah » Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:15 pm

You are certainly tough on your notes. But I appreciate them anyway....

Why would Laura care about acidification? If she said it wasn't done, I'd believe her. If she used this process to balance out the wine, who cares?

I could possibly understand your point if she used some unnatural acidification process, but I can't see her doing this. Maybe you know her better than I.......

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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Oswaldo Costa » Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:30 am

Mark Noah wrote:Why would Laura care about acidification? If she said it wasn't done, I'd believe her. If she used this process to balance out the wine, who cares?

I could possibly understand your point if she used some unnatural acidification process, but I can't see her doing this. Maybe you know her better than I.......


I believe her too, but the issue is interesting (to me) because, while the heat in Mendoza is such that chaptalization is never necessary (and is even illegal), acid levels are, on the other hand, often too low, requiring acidulation. Since anything that could conceivably be seen as spoofulation is controversial, I was interested in her point of view about this practice.

As to your question "If she used this process to balance out the wine, who cares?", if you believe that the ends justify the means, perhaps you will find many discussions on this message board to be of little interest.
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by JC (NC) » Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:30 am

Coincidentally, at a charity wine tasting in Pinehurst that I attended last night, they were pouring a Catena Chardonnay. I was sufficiently impressed to buy a bottle at $32 plus tax although I usually only buy Chardonnay at that price range or higher if it is from France. I will post a note when I open it which may be sometime in September.
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Mark Noah » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:27 am

Oswaldo,

Sorry for the delay. Friday is a long day.

"if you believe that the ends justify the means, perhaps you will find many discussions on this message board to be of little interest." I'm not sure why you posted this. In many cases, this statement is true. Also, in many cases this statement is crap. It's just way too broad with way too many variables. And I do find some of the posts interesting. I don't always agree, but I find them interesting enough to read and once in a great while post a comment.

As for the topic of adding acid, I don't see an issue with it. If too much acid has to be added, The wine will never come out right. I believe a flaw would definitely be detected. I don't technically know where this line is drawn, but I could probably detect it if it was there, or so I think.

I'm guessing by the context that "spoofulation" has to do with manipulating the wine. With very few exceptions, I'm not sure you could make wine with absolutely NO manipulating. I mean, even putting wine into an oak barrel manipulates the wine to some degree. So where is the line drawn on manipulation? I would say everyone has there own line drawn in the sand as to where the manipulation works and doesn't work.

Bottom line, if in the end, the wine is good, then what harm did the whatever degree of manipulation do?

I may not have responded correctly; if I knew a little more on what you considered "spoofulated", maybe I could answer better. Maybe you could even give examples.....

Thanks for your time,

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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Mark Noah » Sat Aug 23, 2008 1:31 am

And JC,

The Catena Alta Chardonnay is a great example of what Laura is capable of down there. This is really becoming a first class Chard producer.

I would love to bring some to a tasting if you are in the area again. Hattie was asking about you the other day.......

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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Oswaldo Costa » Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:31 am

Hi, Mark, thanks for the considered response. I may have overstated your point (if so, forgive me), it's just that I don't like the idea (that you seemed to be defending) that, as long as the result is good, one shouldn't care about the means. While there is no consistent answer to where the line should be drawn between acceptable and unacceptable manipulation (on spoofulation, you might want to check out an interesting thread from a few weeks ago called "Terms: bricking and spoofing"), there seems to be a general consensus on this board that some practices violate the "integrity" of the winemaking process. Most would say that oak chips are unacceptable, even if they make a wine taste better, while altering the proportion of new to old barrels is acceptable, regardless of whether one likes the taste of new oak. Chaptalization is controversial, even forbidden in some places, but I don't have a good feel for whether acidulation, the other side of the coin, is equally controversial.
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Marcelo Maia Rosa » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:07 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:2007 Luca Pinot Noir Altos de Mendoza 14.5% US Price $26/Brazil price $47
Translucent cherry color. Very subdued nose, giving nothing away. Extremely soft, smooth, seductive mouth feel. Cocoa with caramel edges (Marcia says crème brulée). Classy and very different from any other pinot I have ever tried. Marcia is disappointed by the lack of burgundian characteristics, but pinot is unequaled at expressing terroir, and that is excellent here, just very different from Burgundy. I am also amazed at how there is no trace of excess alcohol, despite the highest content of the evening. Amazingly well integrated, and a lesson in how high alcohol, per se, is no fault. My WOTN.


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2007 Luca Pinot Noir Altos de Mendoza 14.5%
Aromas of wild fruit and cassis pie (little cooked) with a hint of acetates and spices. In the mouth have medium body (beautiful translucent color) and vary well balance by the good acidity. The wood is nice with delicate notes and with thins tannins. As Oswaldo says in a post about Laura Catena here in the forum, is impressive the alcohol so high making a good balance... but to me, this difficult in general all thing... i stay more drunk... hehe, and the nose, when the wine heats a little, becomes week, with basically alcohol.
But I liked a lot, the best new world pinot so far! I want to try the 2006, with 14%, suddenly can be very good!

I'm trying to don`d just complain about new world style....this is becoming boring to me... maybe is just a style, good to take a deep sleep after lunch! :wink:
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Rahsaan » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:34 pm

Oswaldo Costa wrote:her father (Nicolas Zapata) gave her a credit card exclusively so that she could buy the best wine in order to “study the competition.”


Why didn't my mother do this for me!
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Agostino Berti » Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:04 pm

Rahsaan wrote:
Oswaldo Costa wrote:her father (Nicolas Zapata) gave her a credit card exclusively so that she could buy the best wine in order to “study the competition.”


Why didn't my mother do this for me!


That's what I was gonna say!

Maybe she doesn't know if her wines are acidified or not. Maybe she uses her credit card to pay a flying oenologist and never even sees him (or her) ! :mrgreen:

By the way, I back you up Oswaldo. I for one do care and want to know how much a wine is manipulated. Call me old fashioned. Coca-Cola tastes good, but do I wanna drink it?

I've seen what happens in cellars. Its become chemistry. Wine can be manipulated every which way. Wine can be made without even using grapes. I, for one, prefer wines that haven't been manipulated at all - the wine being different vintage to vintage. But that's a personal choice.

I'll give you a tip: be wary of over-ambitious wineries. The ones that crave big points by the critics and want to sell their wines for big numbers are usually the ones prone to manipulation. The ones quietly working their plot of land are the ones to look for. That's why a winelover has to dig deep to find the good producers.
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Tom Troiano » Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:37 am

For what its worth, Laura was a participant here when she was in school in the US. I'm not familiar with Luca. Is this another label for Catena? How is Laura actually involved? Is she involved in the winemaking?
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Re: WTNs: six from Laura Catena

by Oswaldo Costa » Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:46 pm

Tom Troiano wrote:For what its worth, Laura was a participant here when she was in school in the US. I'm not familiar with Luca. Is this another label for Catena? How is Laura actually involved? Is she involved in the winemaking?


Yes, it's a Catena label, but it's her baby (her son's name is Luca). She made it sound as if she was intensely involved and was the winemaker (and I believe her). Those notes are from over a year ago and, since then, my palate has moved eben further away from ripe styles, so I am curious to try one again soon.
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