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WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by Saina » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:38 pm

Voirin-Jumel Champagne 2002

Quite a full bodied champagne, but still refreshing. Charming and fruit-forward, but with perfectly enough structure to handle all the fruit. Very nice.

Pol Roger 1996 (Bl de Bl?)

Mineral, citrussy; fine mousse, elegant, paradoxically lean yet fruity, wonderful acidity and minerality. Brilliant stuff!

Mount Pleasant Lovedale Sémillon 2005

Lime and minerals, promises tartness from the aromatics yet is actually quite fruity but still elegant and mineral. The acidity was moderately high, but still lower than I expected from what I have read of Aussie Semillons. Unending, mineralwater aftertaste – lovely. I have only tasted a couple Hunter Valley Sémillons before, but I loved them, and this wine further proves that I should try to find more of them.

Blind: Gaja Barbaresco 1994

Very dark colour. I thought the nose was much like a Barolo with a little bit of age from a warm vintage (I guessed 1997): sweet and primary fruit, rusty tones to the fruit which in this case was darker in tone and less bright red than I expected from Nebbiolo. I was confused by the colour, though, as I have never seen such darkness in a Nebbiolo. Lovely wine, beginning to drink well but I wouldn’t mind a bit more secondary nuance to it.

Töövi Pinot Noir Hein Vineyard 2006 Anderson Valley, California

I had tried this when it had just been shipped to Finland, so it was good to taste it again with a few more months time to settle. This time around, it had brighter Pinot characteristics. Upon opening, the oak wasn’t as obvious as last time, but with air, the oak did come forward – yet it never disguised the Pinosity, so I assume that with a couple year’s age, it will come together. It is a fruit-forward style rather than Burgundian, but leaning more towards Oregonian than the sterotypical Californian style.

Jamet Côte-Rôtie 2004

I remember reading a few notes that this was a bit over done for Jamet. On my previous tastes I hadn’t noticed anything like that, but this time around it was a bit sweeter in fruit than I would hope from a classical C-R. Yet it was still delightfully bacony and peachy and lifted, so I liked it. I didn’t notice any of the new oak aromas that some have claimed. Full bodied, refreshing structure, opulent fruit – but despite the sheer opulence I still enjoy it. Nice!

Salomon-Undhof Grüner Veltliner Alte Reben 2005

This was a very charming wine: very classic GV in its aromas of white pepper and green fruit aromas. Full bodied, warmly fruity, but structured enough to be refreshing also. The aftertaste is just lovely with the varietal aroma of pepper and minerality showing strongly. I really enjoyed this wine!

Kerpen Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese 2006

This was a decent Beerenauslese! ;) Mineral, slightly botrytised, weighty in fruity yet countered by sufficient acidity, this was a very enjoyable whole, though I think it was eclipsed by the other wines tonight. It did work well with some of the cheeses (I liked the old Gouda, and the Monte Enebro goat’s cheese with it).
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Re: WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by Ian Sutton » Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:48 pm

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Great seeing you get sight of another semillon (and a top one at that). In general the great interest in this wine style lies in it's ageing, but I get the impression that you have the palate to be able to appreciate them young as well for their lean raciness. The best of both worlds 8)
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Re: WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by Saina » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:26 pm

Ian Sutton wrote:In general the great interest in this wine style lies in it's ageing, but I get the impression that you have the palate to be able to appreciate them young as well for their lean raciness. The best of both worlds 8)


I am very grateful that Chris H. brought over a bottle of this from the UK. It was obviously a wine of the future, but I guess I can handle brutish tannins and/or acidity quite well as I enjoyed it even now. I have never tasted an aged Hunter Valley Semillon, but would really love to. I'll report back in ten years, lol!

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Re: WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by David M. Bueker » Sat Mar 22, 2008 5:46 pm

Otto Nieminen wrote:
Kerpen Wehlener Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese 2006

This was a decent Beerenauslese! ;) Mineral, slightly botrytised, weighty in fruity yet countered by sufficient acidity, this was a very enjoyable whole


I have a bunch of the Auslese* in the cellar. Kerpen made some really big wines in 2006, and even his spätlese* is close to beerenauslese.
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Re: WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by David Lole » Sat Mar 22, 2008 7:02 pm

Otto,

Recently, I had the pleasure of trying Tyrrell's 1992, 1995 and 1996 Vat 1 Semillon (all from my cellar).The '92 and '96 were bordering on exceptional, the '95, outstanding. The '92 and '95 will go for another 5-10 years, the '96, at least, another 10-15. I hope you're able to source this maker (they export to the UK). FWIW, keep a look out for the Belford Reserve and HVD Reserve from the same maker - they're often as good as the Vat 1.

Thanks for your incisive notes (as usual).
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Re: WTN: Champagne, Hunter Valley Sem, Barbaresco, USA, GV, MSR

by Saina » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:48 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Kerpen made some really big wines in 2006, and even his spätlese* is close to beerenauslese.


From what I have tasted, everyone made big wines '06, it's not only Kerpen. But I think the style of the year works seems to work well for the heavier styles.

David Lole, I have heard great things about the Vat 1 and hope that someday I'll manage a taste. But so far, the Tulloch Julia is the only Hunter Valley Sémillon we have. :(

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