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by Florida Jim » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:05 pm

2005 Dom. Chignard, Fleurie Les Moriers:
A remarkable experience, drinking this wine now; my impression is that it has the structure, balance and fruit concentration to outlive me, that it is of its place only “more so” then one would expect and that even with all that character and power, it is a beautiful wine with roasted chicken tonight. 12.5% alcohol, imported by Kermit Lynch and about $21 on release; I really wish I’d bought more.

1996 Hirtzberger, Riesling Singerriedel:
This is a very potent, angular and concentrated wine that needs strongly flavored food. But more than anything (at least right now) this wine is about length. I have nothing to compare it to – it just goes on and on and the flavors seem to grow in the mouth after swallowing. Not for everyone but this is one of the reasons I love wine; a unique bottle with immense character. 13% alcohol, imported by Vin Davino (then) and about $46 on sale; my last bottle – too bad current versions of this are so damnably expensive.

2005 Château Lascaux, Bordeaux Superieur:
From vines that are 35-40 years old, this is 60% merlot, 20% cabernet franc and 20% cabernet sauvignon aged 18 months in barrel, 1/3 of which are new. It smells like Bordeaux - cabernet based wine that carries some earth, leather and mineral scents; it tastes like Bordeaux – with full bodied fruit, a tannic grip, good density and concentration and a nicely balanced delivery with a somewhat worsted textured; and, it has a medium length, tannic finish. With food, the tannins are less intrusive and the depth of wine is evident.
Much the same on day two, with a little more earthiness, a bit more integration and a somewhat less tannic finish. Could certainly stand some time in the cellar (the website recommends 6-12 years).
13% alcohol, imported by Stacole and about $14; a very good wine among quite a few very nice 2005 Bordeaux bargains. Makes me wonder why I would bother to buy/drink domestic cabernets?

2001 Sella, Lessona:
Mostly nebbiolo, this is from a cooler region than Barolo or Barbaresco; it carries aromatic complexity; elegance on the palate and is reminiscent of roses and asphalt on both. An exquisite wine. 13% alcohol, imported by Selected Wines of Europe and about $26; I bought a lot.

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by Bill Hooper » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:11 pm

Florida Jim wrote:
1996 Hirtzberger, Riesling Singerriedel:
This is a very potent, angular and concentrated wine that needs strongly flavored food. But more than anything (at least right now) this wine is about length. I have nothing to compare it to – it just goes on and on and the flavors seem to grow in the mouth after swallowing. Not for everyone but this is one of the reasons I love wine; a unique bottle with immense character. 13% alcohol, imported by Vin Davino (then) and about $46 on sale; my last bottle – too bad current versions of this are so damnably expensive.


I know Jim. It's upwards of $75 if you can find it.
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by David M. Bueker » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:21 pm

Florida Jim wrote:
2005 Château Lascaux, Bordeaux Superieur:
From vines that are 35-40 years old, this is 60% merlot, 20% cabernet franc and 20% cabernet sauvignon aged 18 months in barrel, 1/3 of which are new. It smells like Bordeaux - cabernet based wine that carries some earth, leather and mineral scents; it tastes like Bordeaux – with full bodied fruit, a tannic grip, good density and concentration and a nicely balanced delivery with a somewhat worsted textured; and, it has a medium length, tannic finish. With food, the tannins are less intrusive and the depth of wine is evident.
Much the same on day two, with a little more earthiness, a bit more integration and a somewhat less tannic finish. Could certainly stand some time in the cellar (the website recommends 6-12 years).
13% alcohol, imported by Stacole and about $14; a very good wine among quite a few very nice 2005 Bordeaux bargains. Makes me wonder why I would bother to buy/drink domestic cabernets?


Calling Nathan...Nathan I have a value priced Bordeaux on iine 2...Nathan.
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by Florida Jim » Sun Feb 10, 2008 4:51 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Calling Nathan...Nathan I have a value priced Bordeaux on iine 2...Nathan.


David,
I've been tasting through some lower priced 2005 Bordeaux and have yet to find a dud. And then, every once and awhile, I get a standout.
Really, the bargains in Bordeaux right now are off the charts.
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by James Roscoe » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:12 pm

Florida Jim wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:Calling Nathan...Nathan I have a value priced Bordeaux on iine 2...Nathan.


David,
I've been tasting through some lower priced 2005 Bordeaux and have yet to find a dud. And then, every once and awhile, I get a standout.
Really, the bargains in Bordeaux right now are off the charts.
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Jim, I am doing the same thing. It must be something about great minds or maybe just great first names. Anyway, my experience pretty much coincides with yours. I have had a few wines I won't go back and buy, but I am awed by the value. Why would you buy American cab or merlot? The best part is I have found some winners for UNDER $10!!! The 2005 Bordeaux Superieur and Cotes may be the best values on the market right now. Not that Nathan would drink this swill.....
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by Florida Jim » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:29 am

James Roscoe wrote:
Florida Jim wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:Calling Nathan...Nathan I have a value priced Bordeaux on iine 2...Nathan.


David,
I've been tasting through some lower priced 2005 Bordeaux and have yet to find a dud. And then, every once and awhile, I get a standout.
Really, the bargains in Bordeaux right now are off the charts.
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Jim, I am doing the same thing. It must be something about great minds or maybe just great first names. Anyway, my experience pretty much coincides with yours. I have had a few wines I won't go back and buy, but I am awed by the value. Why would you buy American cab or merlot? The best part is I have found some winners for UNDER $10!!! The 2005 Bordeaux Superieur and Cotes may be the best values on the market right now. Not that Nathan would drink this swill.....

Nathan who?
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by Dale Williams » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:16 am

Thanks for notes. I have the Sella, but haven't tried yet, lookingforward to it. Funny that 3 of us could post notes on different vintages of the Hirtzberger in one weekend.

Florida Jim wrote: Nathan who?


Smyth. In the "hate Bordeaux" thread one piece of evidence he offered for the non-existence of good under-$15 Bdx was the lack of notes on such from Cowan and Coad -I confess my answer included the impression that you seldom chose Cab/Merlot wines as faves, I see I was mistaken :shock:
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by Florida Jim » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:45 pm

Dale Williams wrote:I confess my answer included the impression that you seldom chose Cab/Merlot wines as faves, I see I was mistaken :shock:


Seldom did.
Now do.
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