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1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

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1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by François Audouze » Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:29 pm

Bipin Desai is the famous collector and old wines specialist who makes extensive verticals of great wines. He comes to France two or three times a year. When it is in December, he has many meals in various places, and he asks me to organise what is called “the dinner of Bipin’s friends”. This is the 7th time that I organise such a dinner, and we will have the attendance of the “crème de la crème” of wine in France. I will make a report on this dinner to come with a great pleasure.

When I met Alexandre de Lur Saluces by the “Grand Tasting” in Paris, he told me : “I will receive Bipin for a dinner two days before the dinner you organise. Would you like to come to Fargues?”. I immediately said yes.

The dinner is held in the private home of Alexandre, touching Chateau de Fargues. We are seven, Anne and Olivier Bernard of Domaine de Chevalier, Bipin and one of his friends, great collector whom I have met several times with Bipin and a young student who had organised some time ago a conference in “Ecole Normale Supérieure”, where the two speakers were Alexandre and me. He is now preparing a doctorate in oenology.

In the very cosy main room of Alexandre we drink champagne Bollinger NV served very cool, which is good for it. It is very strong, with a deep taste, but has an airiness which is pleasant. We talk in English with some deviations as Bipin understands French.

The dinner will give me some surprises concerning the choice of the courses and the choice of the wines. Alexandre smiled about the curious choices that he made.

We begin with Château de Fargues 1995 which is served with scallops, lobster and truffle. This is a perfect combination, mainly with the sauce of the lobster. The Fargues has a slightly brown colour and its nose is very direct. In mouth it is already mature, more than what could be expected. I feel dry grapes in it, and it reminds me Yquem 1988. When I say so, Bipin disagrees, and Alexandre joins him, but I still continue to think that the deepness of the Fargues has similarities with the Yquem 1988. I see a very long future for this wine, but it is very drinkable right now.

As Alexandre had forgotten a soup to clear the mouth after the strong sauternes, he lets serve a Côte Rôtie Cordeloux domaine Bénétière 2003 which is completely not convenient. This wine could be very agreeable in a different dinner. But there, it was inaccurate and played very strangely its role of mouth-cleaner.

The guinea fowl with foie gras and morels has a sauce very sweet which could be combined with a Fargues. But we have a Château Lafite-Rothschild 1945 which fits very well. When I was invited by Alexandre some years ago with my wife we had also drunk the same wine, and I find this one largely better. It is a very racy, noble, elegant wine. Alexandre had asked me if it should be opened earlier as he was afraid of a possibly declining wine after some minutes, but he opened it as soon as I arrived, before Bipin (who opens always at the last minute), which helped to have a very round and performing wine. What I like is the very rational structure in this wine, very pure, long in mouth and highly expressive. Everybody mocked me because I drank the sediment, which is for me the concentration of the excellence of a wine.

Each of us, we had a menu printed at our place, so we could read that there would be cheese and a dessert with strawberries. And the two wines to come, in this order, were Chateau de Fargues 1951 and Vin Jaune Chateau d’Arlay 1999. To put a vin jaune after a Fargues is particularly strange, and a dessert with strawberry will not work either with a sauternes (red fruits are enemy) or with a vin jaune as the effect is repulsive. I was wondering what was the purpose of this and Alexandre, who is the most delicate and sensitive person said that he wondered why he had decided such experiments !

As there was Comté and bleu d’Auvergne, I asked the man who served, whom I know for a long time, to serve the two wines together to enjoy each wine with the proper cheese. I had had already Bipin and Olivier attending one of my dinners and I knew that Olivier does not like oxidative wines. It will be difficult to teach him the finesse of Jura wines. This one is much too young to create really emotion.

The interest is largely more raised by the Fargues and even more when one knows that 1951 Yquem was not made. This Fargues is absolutely delicious. Already brown, with a discrete nose, it has lost a part of its sugar, and shows a high personality. It is delicate and has a great length. It is for me a subtle wine which will not please everyone as it is not a flashy wine. I like such an expression.

We finished passionate discussions with “cannelés”, coffee and a Hennessy cognac. It was a very friendly dinner.
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Re: 1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by James Roscoe » Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:33 pm

I always enjoy reading these posts Francois. Thank you for letting us get a picture of such amazing wines.
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Re: 1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by Cam Wheeler » Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:40 pm

Thank you François for the notes on the wine (and the food! I am glad you are allowed to talk about it here).
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Re: 1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by SteveEdmunds » Fri Dec 14, 2007 1:33 am

Francois; I had the '45 Lafite in 1980, when it was 35 years old, and it seemed to me to be, at that time, 35 years too young. It was a graceful, elegant wine, quite typical of Lafite, but so tightly wound, with such unevolved depths, that it seemed a shame to have drunk it so soon. Given the vintage, and the obvious profundity of the wine, I have to confess I'm surprised by how little you said about the bottle you had. What is your sense of the wine vis a vis Lafites from other vintages?
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Re: 1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by Oswaldo Costa » Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:45 am

Hello, Françis, I've become more and more interested in trying a Chateau Chalon after some of what I have been reading, including your notes on BWE. Particularly the issue of deliberate oxydation. As you noted, these wines are nearly impossible to find in the US. The oldest that appears on Wine Searcher is a 1989 Domaine Berthet-Bondet Cotes du Jura-Savagnin. Is that a true Chateau Chalon or just a surrounding area vin jaune? In the absence of better alternatives, would it be an acceptable introduction? Thank you.
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Re: 1945 Lafite, 1951 Fargues in a dinner with some surprises

by François Audouze » Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:35 pm

Steve,
Lafite 1945 is a very great wine. It is now fully mature and has simplified its structure, making it easier to read.
I did not comment more as I was more passionate by the strange choices made by Alexandre de Lur Saluces.

There are period of excellence of Lafite, and by now I am excited by wines like the 1986 and the 1955 which are teasing my palate. 1945 appears more classical, even if very great.

Oswaldo,
Berthet-Bondet is a very nice producer. The Côtes du Jura will be a white dry wine and not a vin jaune if it is not written on the label. Côtes du Jura are either white or yellow, but "vin jaune" must be written.
I like the whites, but it is not the oxydative wine that is so particular for Jura.
In my opinion, it is worth the try as I love such wines and as 89 is a great year. But you need to look for another bottle if it is not a vin jaune, after having drunk this one.
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