
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Howie Hart
The Hart of Buffalo
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Niagara Falls, NY
Bruce Hayes
Wine guru
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Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Victorwine wrote:In Europe, South America, and Canada ... wine production figures or yields, are usually expressed in the volume of wine produced for a given area (hl/ha). (For all intentional purposes we will assume only “free run” juice is considered and “pressed juice” is excluded. ...) In the US wine production figures or yields, are expressed by the weight of the grapes produced in a given area (tons/acre).
Even though these two expressions basically measure the same thing...
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
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Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Bob Henrick wrote:In the US grape production (and by extension wine) is expressed in tons per acre. In Europe, it is expressed in hl/ha and I don't know how to gauge one against the other. I am chilling an inexpensive Louis Latour chardonnay for dinner tonight and went looking on the web for info about the wine. It is the Grand Ardèche 2004 chardonnay. Truthfully I saw the regular LL Chardonnay Chardonnay d'Ardèche 2005, and this the Grand Ardèche 2004. each was priced at $9.99 and, I probably should have picked up a bottle of each, but decided on the 04 alone. I will be tasting it with game hen from the grill, so it will likely be at least drinkable. If any one can explain the hl/ha vs tons per acre I would be appreciative to the point of pouring you a glass of the wine at table tonight.The LL wines production is expressed (of course) in hl/ha and this is what set me off on this quest.(Edited to add the last sentence.)
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
3919
Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Paul Winalski wrote:To paraphrase Gone With The Wind, frankly, Bob, I don't give a damn what the yield is, whether expressed in tons per acre or hectolitres per hectare.
You cite Louis Latour. This is an estate that puts all their wines through Pasteurization, because this is how their great-great-grandfathers treated their wines, on recommendation of Pasteur, himself. And back in the mid 1800s, it was probably sage advice. Nowadays, it cooks the life out of what would otherwise be great wines, and reduces them to mediocrity.
Given Louis Latour's mistreatment of their wines in this fashion, factors such as yield (however expressed) are entirely secondary and irrelevant.
-Paul W.
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8879
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
Paul Winalski
Wok Wielder
8879
Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:16 pm
Merrimack, New Hampshire
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