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WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Jenise » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:54 pm

For the second time in a row, Warren shows up with a white aperitif wine. We can get used to this. It's a 2001 du Nerthe CdP blanc and it makes me eat all my misgivings about Rhone whites: pear, tons of rocks and unsweetened almond paste make this a delightful wine, and the age gives it a noble bearing.

Then the real tasting gets underway. This is only our second get-together and it's the first of the two that's blind. Moreover, we have set no rules, so we're still feeling our way through creating The Way We Do Things. This time, we just set our bottles on a big slate shelf at the back of the room, and with no plan or discussion and no sommelier to create order, without deciding that's how we'd do it each of us randomly got up and put our bottle in play. And by jove, it worked perfectly: a stranger would have thought we'd been doing this for years, and the wines held no disappointment. In fact, a quartet of wines have to share the WOTN mantle.

First out was a bottle that I brought and expected to be tired, so I wanted it out of the way, a 1985 Les Pallieres Gigondas. Damn if Warren wasn't all over it, ID'ing it's mid-80's vintage and Giggie-ness right off the bat. It was, however, going to be his last run of luck for the night. But I digressed: nice flavors light and polished red fruit, dried orange rind with a touch of iodine, but drying tannins parched the finish. Splash decanted prior to event for sediment removal only. Not dead, but dying.

Next was a wine of Eric's: a mild brett nose blew off rapidly revealing lovely red fruit, tobacco and black figs. It showed like a mid-90's wine but was in fact an '88 Vieux Telegraphe. A wine of excellent balance and beauty that that just got more beautiful as the evening wore on and won many WOTN votes.

Next, John D. stumped us with a '03 Bois de Boursin CdP. Guesses about age ranged narrowly from 99 to 01, but no one found the obvious heat or saturated ripeness of an 03. Dark cherry and warm strawberry flavors dominated. Very good wine.

Here's Marc's wine. Beguiling plum and raspberry fruit with a warm, earthy smokiness. The finish seemed endless. Really fine, and most of us thought it was a 98 or 99. But in fact it was a 95 and another Vieux Telegraphe at that. I believe this had been decanted for about two hours? A truly fabulous bottle and another strong contender for WOTN.

At this point, I decided this was a good place for my second, more serious entry. Again, splash decanted and returned to bottle prior to event to test and remove any sediment only. Rich plummy fruit, pomegranate, milk chocolate (some said butter) and sage brush. A real poser that seemed like a very young wine at first but rapidly changed, developing sweet leather, white flowers and green olives. Guesses about age were all over the map. A fun experience with a serious wine, it was the '99 Chapoutier Barbe-Rac.

Then came Tom, a rep for Triage Wines in Seattle. Seemed very young, all primary fruit and structure with cool black cherry fruit, green tobacco and a hint of brown paper bag in the nose. Finally a 2004, we all thought, and were rather amazed when it turned out to be a 2000 Beaurenard.

Next, Chaz's wine, which was a sea change from the traditional wines we'd been drinking but in a good way. My notes verbatim: "Gorgeous, harmonious and pure, silky black currant and black cherry fruit, modern, szechuan peppercorn, exceptional fruit and balance. WOW." A North Berkeley Import, it was the 2000 Vacheron-Pouizin Le Clos du Caillou. Ensuing conversation revealed that Parker annointed it with 99 points which we all agreed was deserved. Another WOTN.

And here's another, and the one that got my 1st place vote: a big basket of red fruits, spice, fully loaded, dense but lithe, a wine neither juvenile nor old but perfectly poised between the two, traditional, leathery, balanced. For my tastes, perfection. 99 Pegau Cuvee Reserve. Thanks, Warren.

Next comes Lars' wine. Great fruit, a wee bit of horse blanket that blows off quickly, syrah-ish nose, bacon, familiar--BEAUCASTEL. This has to be a Beaucastel, and it is, the 2001, and everything that makes this wine famous and sought-after is here in this bottle. Warren bounces up and down in his chair with a smug grin and announces that he has a case of this. We sneer, jealously.

So that's it, we're done, right? NO! Eric has another bottle in his beaker and he's teaching it to hula. Okay, pour me. Peppery, a little hot, sweet blackberry, fennel bulb, lavender. Very young and svelte. Stylistically it seems modern like the Vacheron, but I drink so few very young CdP's I'm unsure if that's a fair assessment. Whatever, it's very good and finally we have a real baby: 2004 Clos St. Jean Cdp Deus Ex-Machina.

What a great evening--this is the finest array of Southern Rhones I've ever had the pleasure to sample at one sitting, and I'm very proud to be part of this group.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Marc D » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:36 pm

Great notes, Jenise. A very enjoyable night. I thought every wine had something a bit unique to say. The restaurant did a great job with the food. I liked the beet carpaccio, and the gnocchi that was browned and served with the braised beef the best.

My notes:

The 2001 La Nerthe blanc was an interesting wine for me. Subtle spiced pear and hazelnuts, slightly oxidized style. No acidity to speak of, and all the structure coming from the alcohol, but didn't show "hot". Good texture, not heavy or oily at all. I like it but am not yet convinced that white Chateauneuf is for me.

The 1985 Pallieres Gigondas was fully mature with lots of interest because of the tertiary aromas. Saddle leather, brett, smoke, and walnut liquor. Seems to be drying up, though, so drink up soon. Still had a little acidity left, not much fruit left.

I loved the comparison between the 1988 Vieux Telegraphe and the 1995 VT. The '88 seems fully mature, initially showed some swampy funk that blew off. Some leather, dried fruit compote, tobacco leaf. It finished a little hot and with some drying also. I don't see much upside left and would drink these up. The '95 seemed very youthful. Great nose with brown spices, plum and red raspberry fruit, and a little garrigue. Smooth tannins that clipped the middle of the wine a bit. Nice balance and over all excellent wine that should have lots of years left.

The 2003 Bois de Boursin Chateauneuf was a total success for the vintage. Menthol, cassis, and even a floral aspect in the nose. The palate was like velvet and what John termed a real drinker. No excess or harsh tannins and no evidence of over ripe fruit. I would think it takes a lot of talent to make something this drinkable in 2003, and I am going to keep an eye out for other vintages of this. I would drink the 2003 over the next 1-2 years or so.

The 1999 Chapoutier Barbe Rac was quite the changeling over the evening. The buttery milky lactic thing was a little weird, but it had nice cherry and red plum fruit. Soft texture with low acidity and smooth tannins. A flowery note came and went also. The syrah flavors were a big component. Very nice wine for current drinking, the butter was just a tad distracting for me.

The 2000 Beaurenard seemed pretty closed and reserved. Brambly black fruit, with substantial tannin and finished with licorice. This needs more cellar time.

The 2000 Clos du Caillou Reserve was the WOTN for me. Parker made a good call on this one. Very complex nose, spice box, high toned fruit, floral notes. Very precise fruit and excellent balance. I would guess this sees some serious high quality oak, but it is done with a very deft touch. Seductive and compelling wine. I would love to try this in 8-10 years, to see if this modern styled wine ages like the Vieux Telegraphe.

It sounds like you liked the 99 Pegau more than me. It seemed big and more fruit forward and almost opulent, maybe a touch sweet. I think most people at the dinner loved this as it received its share of WOTN votes, but it didn't impress me quite as much as the Caillou.

The 2001 Beaucastel seemed almost too young. There was some black fruit, a little leather, pepper, and a musty hint that made John question if it was slightly corked. I think the musty flavor was the Mourvedre and it wasn't corked, as the wine had been decanted several hours before. I think there is much upside to further cellaring this one.

I thought the 2004 Clos St Jean Deux ex Machina was a big burly bruiser of a wine, pushing the ripeness and extraction a bit. Maybe because of its youth, but it seemed a little over the top.


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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Jenise » Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:23 pm

Marc, my other WOTN vote went to the Caillou, so at least in that respect we weren't far apart. Your comments are so interesting--we were at different ends of the table and I didn't get to hear your detailed comments as the wines went by. Interesting too your comments on the Ex Machina (doesn't that sound like a Terminator kind of wine?)--I was cutting it some slack because unlike every other wine on the table it didn't have the advantage of age or advance decanting. Too, though I hadn't realized it until I said it, I haven't had any other really young CdP's in years, I buy them and just put them away. On reflection, that might not be the best practice because it robs me of that reference point.

Anyway, great night, and I agree about the restaurant--I could go back tonight for another plate of that heavenly gnocchi.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by David M. Bueker » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:34 pm

I'm a huge fan of the '99 Pegau - been through close to a case of it already. Still have a few bottles to hold a little while longer.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Mark Lipton » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:36 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:I'm a huge fan of the '99 Pegau - been through close to a case of it already. Still have a few bottles to hold a little while longer.


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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by David M. Bueker » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:54 am

Mark Lipton wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:I'm a huge fan of the '99 Pegau - been through close to a case of it already. Still have a few bottles to hold a little while longer.


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Yup. If I had older CNdP I would drink it, but alas I came to the region a little later than some otehrs.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Dale Williams » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:06 am

Thanks Jenise (and Marc) for notes.
I'll leave the '01 Beaucastel for later.
I also have the '03 Bois de Boursan. I agree it is restrained for the vintage, with surprisingly fresh acidity. Not my favorite vintage, but not OTT.
I also have one bottle left of the '00 la Nerthe blanc. Your note on the '01 is encouraging, as I've decided I'm no fan of Rhone whites, too. That someone with same mindset has positive notes makes me more eager to open.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Tim York » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:54 am

What a great evening and notes! It sounds as if the two 99s on the menu were at or close to their peak; I should start looking at mine, which include the same Pegaü.

I agree about the Beaucastel 01 needing more time. Indeed your bottle sounds more forward than one I tasted at a vertical about a year ago; it was full of substance but closed tight aromatically unlike the already very expressive 00 and the unfolding 98.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Jenise » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:07 pm

Dale Williams wrote:Thanks Jenise (and Marc) for notes.
I'll leave the '01 Beaucastel for later.... I also have one bottle left of the '00 la Nerthe blanc. Your note on the '01 is encouraging, as I've decided I'm no fan of Rhone whites, too. That someone with same mindset has positive notes makes me more eager to open.
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Good idea re the Beaucastel, it's not ready yet even though our bottle showed well (I believe it had been Andouze-d since early a.m.). Re the la Nerthe, you should probably pay more attention to Marc's comments than mine--I didn't think it had much acidity, but it wasn't as flat as I expected it to be and Marc is no doubt right as to why.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Marc D » Thu Nov 08, 2007 12:59 pm

It sounds as if the two 99s on the menu were at or close to their peak; I should start looking at mine, which include the same Pegaü.


I think it depends how mature you like the wines, and how many bottles you have. The 99 Pegau seems pretty youthful with robust fruit. It is great drinking now, but should be good for quite a while, and maybe develop more tertiary flavors with time.

I'm really a complete beginner with white Chateauneuf and have tried a total of maybe 5 in my life, so read my note on La Nerthe with caution.

Has anyone else tried the Caillou Reserve? I would love to hear other opinions on it. It was really popular with everyone at the table, even some people who supposedly favor traditional styles over "modern".
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by David M. Bueker » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:24 pm

The '99 Pegau has a long life ahead of it, but compared to other recent vitnages it's the one to consume the soonest IMO.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Jason Hagen » Thu Nov 08, 2007 1:45 pm

Thanks for the notes. Sounds like a great evening. One of my groups is doing a CdP tasting on Sunday. I'll try to get some notes up on that one too.

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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Jenise » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:02 pm

Jason Hagen wrote:Thanks for the notes. Sounds like a great evening. One of my groups is doing a CdP tasting on Sunday. I'll try to get some notes up on that one too.

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I'll look forward to it, Jason.
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Re: WTN: The Grand Crew tastes the Southern Rhone

by Warren T » Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:36 pm

I've finally gotten around to posting my (sometimes embarrassing) blind TN's from that amazing night in October.

2001 Château La Nerthe Châteauneuf-du-Pape Blanc
Full bodied and viscous. Pear, melon, almonds on nose. Enough acidity to keep it from being flabby.

1985 Domaine les Pallieres Gigondas

Jenise's bottle. Full amber colored, crystal clear. Restrained but clean nose; iodine, saddle leather, dark cherry, orange rind. In decline, but not over-the hill.

1988 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau

Red-amber; strong tobacco / cigar box, figs. Bracing acidity, mature with time to spare.

2003 Bois de Boursan Châteauneuf-du-Pape
White pepper, dark cherry, mod alcohol heat. I thought maybe an '00 CdP or high-end CdR. Never would have guessed '03, but it was.

1995 Domaine du Vieux Télégraphe Châteauneuf-du-Pape La Crau
Nose was much more expressive than palate. Subtle dark red fruit, leather, peat. I thought the palate had a decrescendo quality, but I was in the minority. Beautiful wine, but I liked several others more. Three in our group (Mark, Charles & Tom) voted it their co-WOTN.

1999 M. Chapoutier Châteauneuf-du-Pape Barbe Rac

Lars called this the protean wine, and I agree. It changed dramatically in the glass, starting with sweet dark fruit, plums, and chocolate, but quicky giving way to to secondary scents and flavors of leather, green olive and garrigue. More elegant than powerful.

2000 Domaine de Beaurenard (Paul Coulon et Fils) Châteauneuf-du-Pape

Ruby red, young, floral nose. Wide open for business. Strawberries on the palate.

2000 Le Clos du Caillou Châteauneuf-du-Pape Reserve le Clos du Caillou
Lot's of "OOohhhs" and "AAaahhs" on the nose. Ruby red, youthful yet very complex. Black raspberries, saddle leather, chocolate, black pepper. Beautiful. 3 voted it co-WOTN.

1999 Domaine du Pégaü Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée
Youthful exuberance. Chewy and full-bodied, yet elegant. Dark berries, strawberry, leather, tobacco, then late olive notes. Well structured and balanced. I've had other '99 Pegaus that were off, but this was my co-WOTN.

2001 Château de Beaucastel Châteauneuf-du-Pape

I still can't believe this was an '01 Beaucastel, even after the bag was removed. It had been decanted 5 hours. Completely open for business. Huge , gorgeous nose and palate. Violet, cherry, bacon fat. None of the Mouvedre or Brett notes I've encountered in '80's Beaucastels. This was my worst guess of the night; I thought someone had sneaked a high-end Northern Rhone into our Southern Rhone tasting. The Syrah notes in the wine struck me. This was one of my co-WOTN, regardless of my absurd guess.

2004 Clos Saint Jean Châteauneuf-du-Pape Deus-Ex Machina

The youngest-drinking wine of the tasting. Dark purple. Black fruit, licorice, pepper, dried strawberry, brown spice. A bit of heat.

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