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WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by Hoke » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:21 pm

Getting back to the thread, one of the difficulties with this discussion is trying to compare Merlot-based wines with Pinot-based wines with wines from other grape varieties from other regions.
It's more of an intellectual exercise and/or a question of individual taste, really.


The thread didn't start that way, though; it simply drifted in that direction in part.

Which is okay, as I love thread drift. And it's also okay because it's almost unavoidable to see this happen in a wine-devoted community. It is normal to post a paean to one sort/type/variety/place, and then have defenders of others put up some sort of comparative. Understandable, as wine lovers are or tend to be strong advocates of what they enjoy.

But yes, I agree, any comparison between merlot/cabernet blends and Pinot Noir, or for that matter Syrah/Grenache versus either of them, or elevating Nebbiolo or Sangiovese or Cabernet Franc, is simply an enjoyable exercise without meaning anything.

I was paying tribute to the unique "magic" of Burgundy. On another occasion, I will no doubt do the same with Bordeaux and/or cabernet/merlot. Or Syrah/Grenache. Or Riesling. Or Chenin Blanc. Or Sauvignon Blanc.

But it doesn't make sense to compare the two, at least in the nature of a "better" or a "best".

It's interesting, though, to look at the two regions, Bordeaux and Burgundy, because they are so different...but each has a successful paradigm. And each paradigm also has flaws or weaknesses too. They are almost radically opposite each other in so many ways. Not least in attitude.
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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by Rahsaan » Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:45 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:The favorable pricing on 2006 Burgundy is a myth.


I've been getting some pretty attractive offers in recent weeks for 2006 stuff marked down 40-50%. Bruno Clair 1ers for $50, Liger-Belair LSG for $50, Bertheau Chambolles well below initial offers.

Seems like there is some serious 'clearance' going on..

Although of course it shows that the initial prices were so far off.
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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by Mark S » Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:59 pm

AlexR wrote:
For example, let's say I would like to add some Chinon or Bougueil to my cellar. Not knowing that region very well, I might consult the Guide Hachette and make a choice (generally in the 2-star category). I simply telephone the grower, wait for his price list, send a check, and the wine is delivered to my door a few days later.
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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by Dale Williams » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:02 pm

Rahsaan wrote:Although of course it shows that the initial prices were so far off.


Yes, most of my 2006 Burg purchases have been on closeout, most well discounted.
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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by David Mc » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:30 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:The favorable pricing on 2006 Burgundy is a myth.


I was surprised at the pricing at the local merchant on 2006. Which one of these would be worth picking up? Of course, I rarely go above $30 bottle so I guess the choice is rather limited.

Philippe Charlopin-Parizot
2006 Chambertin 750ml 185.00
2006 Chambolle Musigny 750ml 59.99
2006 Charmes Chambertin 750ml 125.00
2006 Echezeaux 750ml 125.00
2006 Vosne Romanee 750ml 69.99

Bruno Clavelier
2006 Chambolle Musigny Combe d'Orveau 750ml 94.99
2006 Gevrey Chambertin Corbeaux 750ml 84.99
2006 Passetoutgrains 750ml 14.99
2006 Vosne Romanee Brulees 750ml 84.99

V. Geantet Pansiot
2006 Charmes Chambertin 750ml 120.00

Alain Hudelot-Noellat
2006 Bourgogne 750ml 21.99
2006 Chambolle Musigny Charmes 750ml 79.99
2006 Clos de Vougeot 750ml 125.00
2006 Vosne Romanee Suchots 750ml 79.99

Humbert Freres
2006 Gevrey Chambertin Poissenot 750ml 59.99

Louis Jadot
43290 2006 Beaune Clos Ursules 750ml 49.99
43518 2006 Gevrey Chambertin Clos St. Jacques 750ml 115.00
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Re: WTN: On The Ineluctible Gravitational Pull of Burgundy

by David M. Bueker » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:33 pm

That's good pricing on the Hudelot-Noellat wines.
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