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Re: Corked, but consumed notwithstanding

by Covert » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:47 am

Tom V wrote:[quote="Diane (Long Island)...I had an uncomfortable situation arise in a prominent Southampton restaurant when the manager confronted me because I originally accepted the wine...


...I have to make a point of calming down in the future, paying attention to the wine only, and trying to decide right then and there if it is good or bad. I must say I almost always have an inkling. Tom V[/quote]

Tom and Diane. I find the best way to evaluate flaws (and I read if from the experts, didn't figure it out, myself) is to smell it carefully without any advanced swirling or tasting. I'm sure you know, but you might forget once in a while, that swirling or disturbing the wine will set off aromatics which can disguise minor flaws. And it is fun to just smell and approve the wine without tasting it, because of the waiter's reaction it sometimes provokes. Apparently not too many people have accepted the experts' advice on this, so waiters don't see it a lot. I also love to smell the cork before even smelling the wine to see if it anticipates a problem. I usually, if not always, find TCA and other flaws on the cork prior to picking them up from the glass. (We're going out to dinner tonight; maybe I will approve the wine by just smelling the cork this time.) I know a lot of people say this is silly, but my experience supports cork analysis.

If you found a corked, expensive bottle of wine, you could challenge a disagreeing waiter to further analysis, maybe wagering double or nothing, since TCA does not disappear with airing or further deterioration of the wine from having been opened. It is really annoying when there is nobody in the restaurant who knows wine. I once got a clueless waiter to accept another patron's corroborating opinion, because he was regarded as a wine expert.

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Re: Corked, but consumed notwithstanding

by Thomas » Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:38 am

Covert wrote:If you found a corked, expensive bottle of wine, you could challenge a disagreeing waiter to further analysis, maybe wagering double or nothing, since TCA does not disappear with airing or further deterioration of the wine from having been opened. It is really annoying when there is nobody in the restaurant who knows wine. I once got a clueless waiter to accept another patron's corroborating opinion, because he was regarded as a wine expert.

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When I get a clueless or recalcitrant waiter standing over a cork tainted wine he or she just poured for me to sample, I make him or her a deal: bring a second bottle of the same wine to the table, open it and we compare. If I'm wrong, I buy both bottles; if I'm right, I get free wine. Odds are the second bottle will be fine.

Incidentally, not one has ever taken me up on the offer--they just bring a fresh bottle to the table of the grouchy a**hole who thinks he knows wine...
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Re: Corked, but consumed notwithstanding

by Tom V » Wed Mar 14, 2007 6:43 pm

Covert wrote:

...I'm sure you know, but you might forget once in a while, that swirling or disturbing the wine will set off aromatics which can disguise minor flaws.


Actually Covert, I didn't know that. Is that accepted wisdom? I do the exact opposite, giving the wine a hearty swirl before I taste it. Then again, I suppose it's really the major flaws I'm after when it comes to wines in a restaurant.
I've always been acutely aware of how important it is not to rile those who are responsible for handling one's food out of one's line of vision! I still remember tales of armpit burgers and such which I heard from associates in my younger years! Tom V
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