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Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

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Which grape would you pick as your one and only (you may choose only one option)

Chardonnay
1
3%
Riesling
5
13%
Sauvignon Blanc
0
No votes
Melon
0
No votes
Pinot Gris
0
No votes
Gewurztraminer
0
No votes
Gruner Veltliner
0
No votes
Chenin Blanc
1
3%
Cabernet Sauvignon
4
10%
Merlot
0
No votes
Cabernet Franc
2
5%
Syrah
1
3%
Pinot Noir
21
53%
Zinfandel
1
3%
Nebbiolo
1
3%
Sangiovese
1
3%
Barbera
0
No votes
Grenache
0
No votes
Mourvedre
0
No votes
Gamay
1
3%
Other (please tell us!)
1
3%
 
Total votes : 40
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by David M. Bueker » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:21 pm

Mark S wrote:Hey, where's all the whites??
I'm not seeing any Caricante or marsanne or ...


They fall under the category of "other." Only 21 options in the poll system here.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by JC (NC) » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:03 am

Pinot Noir for me, but if I could vote for two grapes, Riesling would also get a vote.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by John S » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:22 am

Pinot is too easy! I took a divergent approach, was tempted by riesling but went with chenin blanc. Very good sparkling wines, outstanding dry, off dry and of course world class desert wines too. Does the lowly pinot give you all these choices - ha, I think not!! 8) :mrgreen:
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Rahsaan » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:56 am

John S wrote:...was tempted by riesling but went with chenin blanc. Very good sparkling wines, outstanding dry, off dry and of course world class desert wines too.


Yes. In the real world, I go back and forth between riesling and chenin blanc as my favorite white wines. The only reason riesling might win in terms of how much I buy is the broader range of high-quality regions and producers to explore. However, the one thing that tips the advantage to chenin blanc is the better sparkling wines. At least in my experience, although in both cases it is a fairly limited/niche category.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by ChaimShraga » Wed Jan 06, 2016 4:31 am

Pinot Noir. What everyone else said.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:58 am

John S wrote:Pinot is too easy! I took a divergent approach, was tempted by riesling but went with chenin blanc. Very good sparkling wines, outstanding dry, off dry and of course world class desert wines too. Does the lowly pinot give you all these choices - ha, I think not!! 8) :mrgreen:


Good analysis. I like Chenin, in all its forms, but have never been smitten. Riesling holds that place, and if there were a range of world class sparkling Rieslings I would have gone that route.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Bill Buitenhuys » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:57 am

Gamay for me as that is the grape I reach for most often. Roast chicken, pizza, burgers, steak salad and it is usually gamay for us. Chenin was a close second. If I had been thinking sparkling I would have gone with pinot. And as David said, I would also miss nebbiolo quite a bit.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:11 pm

Gamay is certainly a versatile food partner.

I took a look in Cellar Tracker, and checked on my 2015 consumption by variety, and you know what came in the top 5 that shocked me, Mourvedre.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Dale Williams » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:22 pm

I probably drink more Gamay or Riesling than any other grapes, but with question as framed I'll stick with PN.

Though don't forget Sekt!

Mark, I like good Carricante, but really......

David, as to Musigny, Kramer (Making Sense) and Coates both say Chard. Yet other sources say alternate name for the Gouges sport is Pinot Musigny (without saying what is in Musigny blanc). I'm confused!
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by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 12:37 pm

Good Sekt is rare indeed. ;)
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by James Roscoe » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:39 pm

Throw the flag for piling on late.... Pinot Noir.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Sam Platt » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:00 pm

Pinot Noir is my favorite grape variety, but also the grape variety that has disappointed me most often.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by David M. Bueker » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:08 pm

Sam Platt wrote:Pinot Noir is my favorite grape variety, but also the grape variety that has disappointed me most often.


Ah the heartbreak grape.

I have had fewer heartbreaks in recent years. Lots more really good Pinot Noir made these days.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Steve Kirsch » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:26 am

Pinot Noir, with Nebbiolo a close second.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Peter May » Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:33 am

I wasn't going to take part because its not going to happen, the number of varieties and the complexities created by blending varieties is what makes wine so rewarding.

But, not to be churlish.

Can't vote for a white because I love red wines. You can make white and fizz from almost any black grape.

Don't want to drink Pinot Noir evryday, but if I did I might get to like it better.

Therefore it's got to be PInotage. I get withdrawal symptons if I leave it too long between bottles. Matches a wide range of foods, good with chilli rich and spiced meals of which I'm fond, ages beautifully. Also makes good white wine and good fizz.

So I voted other
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Ryan M » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:30 pm

The arguments for Pinot Noir are indeed compelling, but I just can't imagine life without Sangiovese.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by David M. Bueker » Thu Jan 07, 2016 1:41 pm

Peter - bravo on picking Pinotage. I knew someone would go off the beaten path, and figured it would have to be you, Bob or Paul B if he's lurking about.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Mike Filigenzi » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:15 am

PN, of course, for the variety.

Can't decide on a second. Could be sangio or chenin or nebbiolo.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Bob Parsons Alberta » Sat Jan 09, 2016 1:14 am

Mike, how about Baco Noir!!
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Joy Lindholm » Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:40 am

I had to say Riesling, because I just can't imagine life without spicy food, and find an off dry Riesling to be the perfect pairing. It is what we drink the most, usually Trocken, Kabinett or Spatlese. Love the variety!
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Victorwine » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:04 pm

I Like Dick Bueker’s answer (Pinot), but technically one can argue that wasn’t an option in the poll. Pinot by it self could mean Pinot Noir and the hundred or so recognized clones (which most are only distinguished by a number) and let’s not forget the clones, which over the years became significant enough to warrant a name. (Just because a given clone becomes significant enough to warrant a name doesn’t necessarily make it a new variety grape vine. Yes, Pinot Blanc wine is very much different from Pinot Noir wine. But, I wonder, how many of us would be able to distinguish between a Pinot Noir wine made from Pinot Noir grapes (juice, pulp and skins) and a Pinot Noir wine made from Pinot Blanc grape juice and pulp / Pinot Noir grape skins).

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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Peter May » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:36 pm

Good point Victor

For some years when the talk turn to Pinot Noir I have quoted Anthony Hawkin who said on the lines of 'there is no such thing as Pinot Noir...' so now I've dug out his actual quote which is

there is no such thing as "the" Pinot (Noir). In fact accuracy demands that it be referred to as "a" Pinot (Noir) because the name does not belong to a unique vine species but to what the french grower calls a "cépage", that is, a growth defined as a group of closely related but not quite identical vine varieties sharing the same genetic background; in this case a variety that research is increasingly revealing to be derived from a very ancient strain of V.vinifera with a currently generic name of "Pinot". These different strains of the Pinot cépage are technically known as "clones", usually individually identified by adding a secondary name that refers to a special characteristic, place name or clone developer etc. For example; it has been estimated that worldwide there is a minimum of 200 Pinot (Noir) clone versions currently, (1996), planted - including approximately 47 versions planted in the vineyards of Burgundy and nearby districts in France - resulting in a great variation of wine quality and ageing ability etc.


Taken from his SUPER GIGANTIC Y2K WINEGRAPE GLOSSARY on this very site at http://www.wineloverspage.com/wlp_archi ... html#pnoir sadly not updated since 2007.
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Re: Poll - if you had to pick one, and only one grape

by Robin Garr » Sat Jan 09, 2016 12:39 pm

Peter May wrote:Taken from his SUPER GIGANTIC Y2K WINEGRAPE GLOSSARY on this very site at http://www.wineloverspage.com/wlp_archi ... html#pnoir sadly not updated since 2007.

Anthony, sadly, seems to have disappeared from the Internet. I've been unable to reach him at any known contact since around that time. I hope he's alive and well, but I have no way to know. He was a nice guy, and a dogged worker at this labor of love.
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