Burgundy or Bourgogne?

Will they try to ban Claret next I wonder?

Claret is already a protected 'semi-generic' name for the red wine of Bordeaux.

Er, yes - that's my point. Burgundy is also protected, and know they are trying to ban its use where it was previously allowed.

Oh! OK, I get it now.

I can't find any news of this regulation on the web -- I think we need to see it.

I can't find any news of this regulation on the web -- I think we need to see it.

Yes, I'm wondering if this is only a regulation about Bourgogne AC (not that I remember any bottle ever labelled Burgundy).

Okay, a clarification just received:

According to the BIVB, they are looking for a more gradual shift away from using "Burgundy" and in favor of using the official AOC Bourgogne in all reference to the wine region and its wines (as well as it's other DOP classifications as well, of course).

They basically see a disconnect when educators and labels refer to the AOP wine as Burgundy, then go into a wine shop and see the classification of Bourgogne, so they are asking educators and aficionados---not mandating---to use the term Bourgogne rather than Burgundy.

The BIVB realizes this transition to common usage and reference for Bourgogne will likely take many years, but feels it is proper to refer to the region as Bourgogne, since that is its official French name, and is in accordance with all other regions being basically recognized by their official French names.

And what is the French Wine Academy? [url]www.frenchwineacademy.com/‎[/url]. AKA French Wine Society.

I looked at some of my Burgundies last night and none of them have "Burgundy" printed anywhere on them.

And what is the French Wine Academy?

I know that there is a group on Linkedin by that name. It seems to be based in D.C.

In the UK, it is not unusual for merchant own-label Bourgogne AC to have the word Burgundy writ large on the label.

I am not convinced that is necessarily good for the brand if we all used the word Bourgogne to refer to it. We might all better know that Bourgogne and Burgundy was the same wine, but there would still be the issue of relating the wine to the region of Burgundy. I am sure they would prefer we use French-language names for all things French, but that is not going to happen any time soon.

There would also of course also be a bigger disconnect between Bourgogne and historical references to Burgundy wine.

I'm with Steve.
Burgundy may be only region commonly referred to in English by a non-French name, but even reps from the CIVC pronounce Champagne "Sham-pain." And do we need to drop the "the" in the Rhone and the Jura?

Elsewhere there is of course Piedmont/Piemonte and Tuscany/Toscano

The French Wine Society's master instructor list include Roger Bohmrich & Bobby Kacher, maybe should change to French Oak Society.

The French Wine Society's master instructor list include Roger Bohmrich & Bobby Kacher, maybe should change to French Oak Society.

Oh, snap.

The use of the English term “Burgundy wine” simplifies things a little bit IMHO. In today’s day and age “Burgundy wine” or “Burgundy style wine” equals a wine made from Pinot Noir (if “red”) and Chardonnay (if “white”) using a certain technique to produce a wine with a certain style. If the “Burgundy wine” is produced in Burgundy, France, most likely it comes from the “central” region of Burgundy. How many of us here refer to a red wine produced in the “southern” region of Burgundy, France using the Gamay grape a “Burgundy wine”? Or a Chardonnay wine produced in the “northern” region of Burgundy as a “Burgundy wine”?
Technically all these wines are “vins de Bourgogone” (wines of Burgundy). If they are red they can be called “Bourgogone Rouge” (Red Burgundy), if white they can be called “Bourgogone Blanc” (White Burgundy). But they cannot all be called a “vin Bourgogone” (Burgundy wine).

Salute