Marketing Eastern Grapes - 1920

Peter:

Yes, the reverse is definitely true. Let's say vinifera Chardonnay is growing in Finger Lakes (as per the earlier question) next to a row of Labrusca - and the Chardonnay is pollinated by the Lambrusca. All that happens is that the seeds in the Chardonnay grapes contain DNA of both the Chardonnay mother and the Labrusca father.

The status - the DNA - of the Chardonnay vine itself or its grapes are not altered or affected by having its grapes fertilised. (Any more than a human mother's biology is changed by the man who fathers her children).

If the seeds of that grape were planted the resulting vine would be a new unique variety - in this case a hybrid since the parents are of two different species.

I'm all for planting the seeds of that grape. Come to think of it, the seeds already must have planted inadvertently and resulted in vines. Just have to go out and find 'em.

I'm all for planting the seeds of that grape. Come to think of it, the seeds already must have planted inadvertently and resulted in vines. Just have to go out and find 'em.

Best of luck!

There are wild grapes growing in the hedgerows all over, but you'd need to do a DNA test to know what the parentage is.

The overwhelming majority of crosses are no good for wine, either not bearing grapes, being overly susceptible to disease or not growing in a trainable way. And few of those that don't have those faults make decent wine. That is why there are so few successful varieties that have been deliberately bred. I am not aware of any successful wild crosses in the past 100 years

“Noiret” might not be a household recognized name today, but in the future who knows?

Salute

I've had three or four Noirets and it makes a pretty good red. It' one of many hybrids bred for cold climate by the Cornell University team at Geneva NY Research Station.

Peter:

Yes, the reverse is definitely true. Let's say vinifera Chardonnay is growing in Finger Lakes (as per the earlier question) next to a row of Labrusca - and the Chardonnay is pollinated by the Lambrusca. All that happens is that the seeds in the Chardonnay grapes contain DNA of both the Chardonnay mother and the Labrusca father.

The status - the DNA - of the Chardonnay vine itself or its grapes are not altered or affected by having its grapes fertilised. (Any more than a human mother's biology is changed by the man who fathers her children).

If the seeds of that grape were planted the resulting vine would be a new unique variety - in this case a hybrid since the parents are of two different species.

I'm all for planting the seeds of that grape. Come to think of it, the seeds already must have planted inadvertently and resulted in vines. Just have to go out and find 'em.

Dan:

Around my place at Keuka Lake, a number of unidentified grapevines show up. Someday, I ought to have them tested. Few ever produce fruit, but I noticed one just the other day has berries on it that are in veraison; they are as tiny as peas and sparsely located on the vine.

Peter wrote:

There are wild grapes growing in the hedgerows all over, but you'd need to do a DNA test to know what the parentage is.

Have any of the Labrusca/Native Americans been DNA tested? Someone here just might know. They are said to have "some" vinifera parentage, but how much do which ones have?

When it comes to sexual reproduction, in nature it’s the traits, which make the species “stronger” or better suited to its environment that get carried on. In deliberate breeding it’s those traits, which are considered “desirable” that are wanted. The “mother” or “father” most posses those “desirable” traits or characteristics. After examining say 100 seedlings you might discover you are on the right track to what you desire or looking fore. You might have to up your experimental trial say to 300 seedlings to maybe find what you are “exactly” looking for.

Salute