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Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke, are you suggesting that "variety" can be used as both an adjective and as a noun?
Guess I'll just have to learn to hate the grating use of "varietal" when "variety" is meant, which, Hoke, is the issue, not the smokescreens you are throwing up with all those definitions of "variety."
When someone says or writes "varietal" within a context that is meant "varietal wine" that's one thing--but when someone says "varietal" within the context that means "variety" that's incorrect. Why can't you concede that small point?
Hoke wrote:
Actually, I was riffing a la Lenny Bruce. You're old enough to know what I mean by that, Thomas.
Hoke wrote:And have you ever noticed that if you concentrate on a word, really focus on it closely for a long time, the word turns into gibberish? I've always thought that was neat too. Hey, you can even try it with gibberish!
To you that's a bad thing, because it's not what you are used to; to me it's neither a good nor a bad thing. It simply is. It's sloppy, yes. It's lazy thinking, yes. It's being careless, yes, and with language, which means a great deal to you, both personally and professionally, Thomas. So I understand your angst (which in a previous time I would most likely have termed anguish, or for a while have called being up tight, or in a different place said pissed off); I simply don't share it all that much.
Bob Ross wrote:
And, many writers, including Thomas himself (in Wine: The 8,000 Year-Old Story of the Wine Trade) , Hugh Johnson, Jancis Robinson, others, use "varietal" as a noun to describe a varietally labeled wine.
Regards, Bob
Bob Ross wrote:I doubt it too, Thomas, given how strongly you feel about the subject.
Cut royalties -- perish that thought, Thomas. As a reader, I want authors to make as much money as possible. Especially those that write about subjects I'm interested in.
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