Screwcaps give faultless performance

Hoke and Howie,
Rule # 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!

D'OH!!!! I just broke the rule!

Have fun, gentlemen! The wall is still made of bricks.

James: Don't worry, I'm not trying to break down the wall of bricks.

...But I sure can scrawl some graffiti on it!

Hoke and Howie,
Rule # 1 - DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!

D'OH!!!! I just broke the rule!

Have fun, gentlemen! The wall is still made of bricks.

Geez, Roscoe...are we back to that again?

You need to fire your writer....your jokes are getting stale.


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, big guy.



Oh and thhbbbbttt

From another thread:

Napa Valley, $25 at the tasting room in February 2004.

Sometimes wine really does improve in the bottle.

I opened my second bottle of this with spaghetti this evening.
A good deal better after another couple of years (see below). Shows the difference between Napa and Sonoma or DCV Zins. Dark transparent ruby, more Sangiovese-like flavor than Syran-like, light, smooth amd medium long. A couple of years helped a lot!

From June 2004: Decent enough Zin. A faint sweetness on the mid palate, and a longish, berried finish. Slightly hot. Would have been a bargain at $15.

Either the finish shortened with the blending of the alcohol and tannin, or my opinion of length changed. Quite likely both.

There was only a bit of tartrate on the end of the cork. I drink so much unfined/unfiltered wine that I'm a little surprised to find a cork that isn't pretty crusty.

Gee.

I wonder if it was screw capped.

Pay no attention to the man behind the cork enclosure....I am the Great and Powerful Doon, Screw Cap Man.

http://www.bonnydoonvineyard.com/about/OurLeader

From another thread:

Napa Valley, $25 at the tasting room in February 2004.
Sometimes wine really does improve in the bottle.
I opened my second bottle of this with spaghetti this evening.
A good deal better after another couple of years (see below). Shows the difference between Napa and Sonoma or DCV Zins. Dark transparent ruby, more Sangiovese-like flavor than Syran-like, light, smooth amd medium long. A couple of years helped a lot!
From June 2004: Decent enough Zin. A faint sweetness on the mid palate, and a longish, berried finish. Slightly hot. Would have been a bargain at $15.
Either the finish shortened with the blending of the alcohol and tannin, or my opinion of length changed. Quite likely both.
There was only a bit of tartrate on the end of the cork. I drink so much unfined/unfiltered wine that I'm a little surprised to find a cork that isn't pretty crusty.

Gee.
I wonder if it was screw capped.

And your point would be?

"Here's a wine that has improved under cork. Therefore, wine will not improve under screwcap" ?

Is that it? Say it ain't so, Tim....
cheers,
Graeme

"Here's a wine that has improved under cork. Therefore, wine will not improve under screwcap" ?

Is that it? Say it ain't so, Tim....
cheers,
Graeme

Um....come again?

My point was that a wine actually improved under a cork.

Oh-my-God.


Isn't that amazing?


To believe the anti-cork naysayers this is just plain not possible....under any circumstances. And we had better stampede over to screw caps because, ya know, 2-4% just might be susceptible to TCA. WOW!!!


Sound the alarm!!!




The sky is falling.

And I'm the idiot.

[James Roscoe]

Tim,
The troll is the thread, not you. It's not always about you. Let's try to keep that ego in check. You need to learn that not everything is personal.
Cheers!

Nice one James. Lets try to get this thread back on track again.

How much exposure to the Diam cork has everybody had? Is this a good idea or not?

I think that it works well, except that you can rarely get the flipping thing back into the bottle. It does not deform the same way that a Real Cork does.

None in my case, Neil. But I love the glass cork. Elegant, reusable, predates the tree cork -- what's not to like?

Regards, Bob

And I'm the idiot.

It would be rude to disagree with you, Tim.


You know, I almost forgot Il Mionetto. I mean, how could I overlook that? I know, it's not techically a screwcap, but you know, it's the same idea. Great idea, eh? Put a crown cap (vulgarly called a beercap) on a bottle of sparkling wine, thus making it fresh, lively, bubblelicious, and easy to open all at the same time.

Of course, it's not really all that original an idea, Tim. Heck, the guys in Champagne have been doing it for years and years. You know all that high-price Champagne that's coming out? Well, until just before t was made ready for shipping, chances are it was under that very same crown cap. Imagine that: All that Dom Perignon and PJ and Taitty aged under beercaps for all that time and then just cosmetically graced with a cork just before you drink it. Kinda funny, isn't it?

So add all those to your list too, okay?

Oh, and Murphy-Goode. You already knew about Murphy-Goode, right, Tim?

Your description is almost perfect.

But there is one more trap too avoid.

[b]V:[/b] In German, the letter "V" usually represents the English "F."

True enough. but in some words (among them Veltliner) it is pronounced
like the v in very.

regards from Vienna

Harald

Nice one James. Lets try to get this thread back on track again.

How much exposure to the Diam cork has everybody had? Is this a good idea or not?

I think that it works well, except that you can rarely get the flipping thing back into the bottle. It does not deform the same way that a Real Cork does.

I've not seen a wine capped with one yet, but I do have an issue with some screw capped wines, the ones that are covered with an impermeable capsule. Why is the capsule even necessary? But when it is used someone could have designed one with a tab--preferably, a tab that works correctly--so that undoing the plastic wonder does not produce an exercise in new language dexterity and the need for sharp knife to rip the thing to shreads with vigor.

"Here's a wine that has improved under cork. Therefore, wine will not improve under screwcap" ?

Is that it? Say it ain't so, Tim....
cheers,
Graeme

Um....come again?

My point was that a wine actually improved under a cork.

Oh-my-God.

Isn't that amazing?

To believe the anti-cork naysayers this is just plain not possible....under any circumstances. And we had better stampede over to screw caps because, ya know, 2-4% just might be susceptible to TCA. WOW!!!

Sound the alarm!!!

The sky is falling.

Really, Tim? "Anti-cork naysayers" have said that it's not possible for a wine to improve in the bottle under cork? When? Where? Ya think maybe you've gone just a little around the bed here?

[James Roscoe]

Tim,
To be clear, I have never called or compared you to a troll. It is the thread that is the troll. It endlessly feeds on everything that is fed to it regardless of the content. To be fair, I have compared you to a brick wall as I believe you are not listening to the rational arguements being made by Thomas and others. I find Hoke's method of responding to you somewhat irrational and thus particularly funny.

Having stated my opininion on that issue, I think you offer a lot of great stuff in other areas. Your humor thread is great and I have enjoyed many of your food threads. I am not trying to chase you away. I just wish you would let this issue (corks vs. screwcaps) drop on this board. You get a little too sensitive on this one issue. Just putting my $.02 in for what it's worth.
James

I find Hoke's method of responding to you somewhat irrational and thus particularly funny.

Ya got me, James.

Yo, Tim:

I would be remiss if I didn't mention the wines from Don Sebastiani and Sons/Three Loose Screws/The Other Guys. These guys have been doing a great job---creative ideas, snazzy packaging that catches the customer's imagination, and use of screwcap/Zork/Vino-Lok, along with some cork finished selections as well.

You might like Used Automobile Parts, Tim. You can buy a three bottle selection, with the wine sealed under all three alternatives. You can sample the screwcapped bottle, the Zork-topped bottle, and the Vino-Lok bottle. I know an adventurous and open-minded guy like you, thirsting for knowledge and experience, would leap at an opportunity like that!

But don't stop there. You can try:

Mia's Playground
Fusee
Screw Kappa Napa
Le bon vin de Napa
Plungerhead (Zork!)
Hey Mambo
The White Night

Lot's of choices there, Tim. There'll probably be more soon, the way these guys are going.

Hoke, please don't forget the unforgettable Sparkling Muscatel from Idaho in the 1979 opus featuring Kermit, Miss Piggy and Steve Martin.

Your cataloging skills are quite remarkable, Hoke.

Carry on.

Hey, Tim, did you see the WTN on the Tortoise Creek?

You should take a look at it. Sounds like a really good rose. Just the thing for the San Joaquin Valley on a hot day. But I repeat myself.

Affordable too, so we don't have that rant to worry about.

And wouldn't you know? It's screwcap!

Hoke, please don't forget the unforgettable Sparkling Muscatel from Idaho in the 1979 opus featuring Kermit, Miss Piggy and Steve Martin.

Your cataloging skills are quite remarkable, Hoke.

Carry on.

Well, Bob, that Sparkling Muscatel from Idaho is a classic, isn't it.

And that is high praise, coming from you. Merci!

Hoke,

You have provided great entertainment in this thread.

So has Tim.

Hoke,

You have provided great entertainment in this thread.

So has Tim.

Thanks, Thomas.

Mine was intentional.

Don't know about Tim.

(And thus far, I've been exlcluding any NZ or Australian screwcapped wines. This list could get very long...)

Tim,
The troll is the thread, not you. It's not always about you. Let's try to keep that ego in check. You need to learn that not everything is personal.
Cheers!

Actually, James, the thread did not start as a troll. It started as a statement of fact.
Cheers,
Sue