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Brian K Miller
Passionate Arboisphile
9340
Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:05 am
Northern California
Mike B.
Ultra geek
367
Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:56 am
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Bob Henrick
Kamado Kommander
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Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:35 pm
Lexington, Ky.
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:That is great news Mike B. No Barbera around here except for Renwood. Checked out my Lebanon wine store today (whisper), nothing except for `01 Hochar.
Mike B.
Ultra geek
367
Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:56 am
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Bob Henrick wrote:
Bob, tell me a little about your local Lebanon wine store, and the 01 Hochar. Is this wine from Musar? The name Hochar would imply that it is. So what is in the bottle and what does it cost up there in the frozen north?
Bob Parsons Alberta. wrote:Robin thought we could have more than one OM going at one time. I thought this Barbera might be interesting as quite a few forumites had joined in with postings.
Oliver McCrum
Wine guru
1076
Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 am
Oakland, CA; Cigliè, Piedmont
wrcstl wrote:I knew Robin was at the bottom of this.
Walt
Robin Garr wrote:wrcstl wrote:I knew Robin was at the bottom of this.
Walt
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Just to re-clarify, Walt, again ... Open Mike is a very casual thing. It's okay to have several running at once - different people have different interests - and they're generally non-expiring. In other words, you're still welcome to post in Montepulciano, and it's your call whether to post in Barbera. (I'm not much of a fancier of California Barbera myself.)
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke wrote:Walt:
That would be Ed Sbragia, and the winery would be Sbragia Family Wines.
I understand you prefer your Chardonnays in a specific style, within a specific range, and usually from specific favored places. What I can't understand is why you condemn and ban other places and other styles that don't fit your personal preferences, when obviously a great many people like those wines.
Hey, if they're out there driving up the prices of wines you don't want to drink, that means they're leaving the wines you do like alone! And that's a good thing, right?
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
We have discussed this in the past and if I remember you are more for the "experimental" nature of wine.
Keith M
Beer Explorer
1184
Sat Jan 06, 2007 2:25 am
Finger Lakes, New York
Hoke wrote:'Pinot Syrahs' that are enjoying the vogue right now
Hoke wrote:We have discussed this in the past and if I remember you are more for the "experimental" nature of wine.
Well, I am in one sense, but I also totally understand, and agree with what you're saying, Walt. And I would say we probably like many of the same wines, and the same style of wines, for the same reasons.
I like experimental in the sense of people being able to take what they have and express it the way they thing is right or appropriate. And in the sense that there is no single "right" way, no prescribed way, to do things, or to express things.
Let's see, how to say it? Okay: I love Burgundian Pinot Noir beyond belief. It's as close to the ultimate expression of what I want wine to be as anything I know. (Well, I could say that about Riesling too, but that's on another night.) Yet I don't say, "No other Pinot Noir made in any other way from any other place interests me because it's not Burgundy." That, to me, is wrong. I like seeing what happens when other people do other things in other places with that grape variety (and with different clones of that variety as well). I like seeing how Pinot Noir expresses itself under the hands of different people. Even if I don't like a particular wine---say, like the general run of the 'Pinot Syrahs' that are enjoying the vogue right now, even then I try to assess it to fit it into the spectrum of what Pinot Noir is. For me.
Yeah, I'm always on the quest for the new, the different, the adventurous, sure, and some of those things I may never try again. But I want to know about them. At the same time, when I occasionally stumble on that perfect Burgundian Pinot that makes my soul sing, I can celebrate that----but not want to end that quest I am on either.
As to Ed, yes, he's a great guy---which is apropos of nothing in particular, except that he is a very skilled and dedicated winemaker. I think, personally, that he's been working on that particular style of Chardonnay for so long, that's his benchmark, so that's what he continues to do. I'd love to see him make a chillingly austere Chablis-style Chardonnay---but I'm not sure that is where his heart and soul and instinct and skill is, so maybe it wouldn't be that profound. But maybe.
Guess I'm just a raging liberal---and not just politically and socially, but in all other aspects of life as well. I think it's a big wide wonderful world of wine out there, and I want to experience as much of it as I can...knowing I won't like some of it, but knowing someone will, and knowing that I will like most of it.
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
11420
Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Keith M wrote:Hoke wrote:'Pinot Syrahs' that are enjoying the vogue right now
That is an interesting moniker that I have not run into before. What do you mean by 'pinot syrah'?
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