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What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom N. » Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:48 pm

I have a hard time matching wine to grilled burgers. I suspect it is my chosen condiments that complicate things. I like my burger with dijon mustard and sweet pickle relish. I also always have melted cheese on my burger.

Tonight's attempt to match my burger was:

Solid garnet red. Ripe nose with cassis and ripe purple plums with a touch of blackberry. Rich black fruit, especially blackberry, on the midpalate with solid tannins and balancing acidity. Medium to long finish of black fruits and tannic glow finish. Medium bodied with a nice balance. A bit tannic at first sip, but settled down nicely with 30 minutes in the glass.

Wine: 2010 Alamos malbec. 13.5% abv.

Burger match: good but not great. Actually very nice match with the salad of mixed greens, including argula, dressed with balsamic vinaigrette and topped with grape tomatoes.

What do wine do you find matches well with your grilled burgers?
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Jim Grow » Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:53 pm

Hi Tom , I usually go with a Marietta "old vine" red, a petite syrah or a mid-bodied Napa Cabernet. I never think past the condiments. I'd probably open a young Zin if I had more of them.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Jon Leifer » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:19 pm

Zins are usually my first choice but wd not hesitate to go with a Malbec as well
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by John Treder » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:52 pm

Burgers aren't the sort of meal about which I consider the wine to be important. AAMOF, I pick beer a good half the time.
Generally, I'll drink whatever's in the open bottle with a burger. If I'm opening wine, it's likely to be Zin, probably Coffaro. Which of Dave's Zins? Gee, I dunno, whatever appeals at the moment.

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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by David M. Bueker » Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:57 am

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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Mark S » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:50 pm

I don't really eat a lot of burgers, but when I do I like a red burgundy. Goes very well with the beef, mushrooms, and Dijon mustard!
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Bob H » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:32 pm

Turkey burgers--Pinot or a lighter Zin ("lighter' meaning not a high alc. one like Wilson or a tighter one like Ridge).
Beef--Zins or Syrah/Syrah blends.
Spicy BBQ sauce on it usually means a younger Zin.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Florida Jim » Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:50 am

Mostly turkey burgers for me and I'm with Bob on Pinot.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom Troiano » Mon Mar 19, 2012 6:33 am

Defintely Zin.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by JC (NC) » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:36 am

I use ketchup on burgers rather than mustard or pickle relish. I find I like burgers with Syrah or a southern Rhone blend.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by James Roscoe » Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:42 pm

I agree with JC, although I drink Spanish Granchas and some southern Italians as well. I am not adverse to American red blends as well, even if some might be labled cabernet or merlot.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by David Mc » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:31 pm

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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Shaji M » Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:35 pm

Zin, Malbec, Southern Rhones, Cab Franc, (latter if the burger is not embellished with too many condiments)
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom N. » Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:06 pm

Florida Jim wrote:Mostly turkey burgers for me and I'm with Bob on Pinot.
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Bob and Jim,

I have never had pinot with a burger, I am going to definitely have to try that. It seems that zinfandel is one of the most liked matches. I like zins, but my favorite zins from CA tend to be quite expensive here in Canada. However, I just ordered some.

I will have to try tempranillos again. I have had them with burgers in the past, and sometimes they are a good, sometimes not.

I also like carignan with burgers, but that is a difficult wine to find as a varietal. I have one bottle of Cline Old Vines carignan in my cellar, but will probably have it with something more substantial than burgers.

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. It gives me a lot to think about and try this year with our early start to the grilling season. :mrgreen:
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Jon Peterson » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:20 am

David M. Bueker wrote:Ridge Zin


Better be a damn good 'burger!
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom N. » Tue Mar 20, 2012 9:53 pm

Jon Peterson wrote:
David M. Bueker wrote:Ridge Zin


Better be a damn good 'burger!

I agree. I have a Ridge Zin in my cellar but I don't think I will open it up for a hamburger. With a smoked, slow grilled brisket with my favorite Memphis style rub maybe, but not for a burger.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Dave Erickson » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:51 pm

Bodegas Volver Tempranillo La Mancha. Big spicy fruit, a little toast, one of the few wines that really stands up to ketchup. (I consider a burger and fries to be accompaniments for the consumption of ketchup. Your mileage may vary.) Ketchup is the Bomb. No, really. Here's a little excerpt from Malcom Gladwell's "The Ketchup Conundrum," which he wrote for The New Yorker, and which discusses the unusual universal appeal of the stuff:

There are five known fundamental tastes in the human palate: salty, sweet, sour, bitter, and umami. Umami is the proteiny, full-bodied taste of chicken soup, or cured meat, or fish stock, or aged cheese, or mother’s milk, or soy sauce, or mushrooms, or seaweed, or cooked tomato. “Umami adds body,” Gary Beauchamp, who heads the Monell Chemical Senses Center, in Philadelphia, says. “If you add it to a soup, it makes the soup seem like it’s thicker—it gives it sensory heft. It turns a soup from salt water into a food.” When Heinz moved to ripe tomatoes and increased the percentage of tomato solids, he made ketchup, first and foremost, a potent source of umami. Then he dramatically increased the concentration of vinegar, so that his ketchup had twice the acidity of most other ketchups; now ketchup was sour, another of the fundamental tastes. The post-benzoate ketchups also doubled the concentration of sugar—so now ketchup was also sweet—and all along ketchup had been salty and bitter. These are not trivial issues. Give a baby soup, and then soup with MSG (an amino-acid salt that is pure umami), and the baby will go back for the MSG soup every time, the same way a baby will always prefer water with sugar to water alone. Salt and sugar and umami are primal signals about the food we are eating—about how dense it is in calories, for example, or, in the case of umami, about the presence of proteins and amino acids. What Heinz had done was come up with a condiment that pushed all five of these primal buttons. The taste of Heinz’s ketchup began at the tip of the tongue, where our receptors for sweet and salty first appear, moved along the sides, where sour notes seem the strongest, then hit the back of the tongue, for umami and bitter, in one long crescendo. How many things in the supermarket run the sensory spectrum like this

Read more http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2004/09/06/040906fa_fact_gladwell#ixzz1plqhDSas
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom N. » Wed Mar 21, 2012 7:19 pm

Dave Erickson wrote:Bodegas Volver Tempranillo La Mancha. Big spicy fruit, a little toast, one of the few wines that really stands up to ketchup. (I consider a burger and fries to be accompaniments for the consumption of ketchup. Your mileage may vary.) Ketchup is the Bomb. No, really. Here's a little excerpt from Malcom Gladwell's "The Ketchup Conundrum," which he wrote for The New Yorker, and which discusses the unusual universal appeal of the stuff:


Hi Dave,

I agree. I stopped eating ketchup on my fries/fried potatoes with my burger because of its clash with most wines. This is a nice eye-opener and hopefully palate opener for me. I really like tempranillos from anywhere in Spain, but especially Rioja.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Lou Kessler » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:18 pm

David M. Bueker wrote:Ridge Zin

Which one? I Like Ridge wines in general but they do run the gamut in styles.
Oh, a good Cotes du Rhone works well.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Dale Williams » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:32 pm

I find lots of wines go with burgers (I'm not much of a ketchup man). I think there's nothing wrong with opening a Gevrey 1er (hey, pretend the burger is all Charolais, Burgundy is beef country). But my most common matches would be young satellite Bordeaux or Cali Cab or Merlot, but Zin,Rhones, a muscular PN, etc all go well. I tend to base on sides or toppings.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Tom N. » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:50 pm

Dale Williams wrote:I find lots of wines go with burgers (I'm not much of a ketchup man). I think there's nothing wrong with opening a Gevrey 1er (hey, pretend the burger is all Charolais, Burgundy is beef country). But my most common matches would be young satellite Bordeaux or Cali Cab or Merlot, but Zin,Rhones, a muscular PN, etc all go well. I tend to base on sides or toppings.

Hi Dale,

I think that is what I need to do in the future, match to the toppings since they tend to dominate the taste. Most wines I drink with burgers tend to match the meat of the burger just fine. I think a good pinot will be a good match to the pickle relish and mustard because of the acidity. When I drink big fruity, alcoholic wines with my burger they tend to be too hot and clash with the slightly sweet pickle relish.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Covert » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:46 pm

1990 Pétrus*, which I have yet to order with a hamburger. So any good Bordeaux. A nice, fat grilled hamburger goes better with a quality Bordeaux than any other food, in my opinion. I often order the combination in a fine restaurant, because that’s often where you have to go to find good Bordeaux. A hamburger tastes great and fills you up without competing with the claret, like sophisticated food sometimes does. And when your wife sees a $250 credit card bill from a top restaurant she won’t necessarily think you are as bad a reprobate as a common wino. I don’t think it was anachronistic** that Miles drank his precious 1961 Cheval Blanc in a fast food restaurant. It was, as Hemingway put such an idea, one true thing.

* I stopped at what was essentially a diner for lunch recently in Charleston and espied a Pétrus on the menu. Incredulous, I asked to see the bottle, promising I would buy it if I dropped it. Sure enough, hence my reference, in addition to being aware of the FleurBurger 5000.

**Anachronistic can be used for this sort of misplacement, if you have a big enough dictionary, even when chronology is not directly in the meaning. It feels like exactly the right word, here.
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Lou Kessler » Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:08 pm

Covert, did you realize that Mile's apparent love of Cheval Blanc was contradicted by the fact that, that particular Bordeaux is usually about 40% Merlot. I think the author wrote that to make fun of wine geeks in general.
I was under the impression that Casanova was so successful with his seductions because he offered his women first growth Bordeauxs with their hamburgers. Is that true? I figured that you Covert might know the veracity of this info? :roll:
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Re: What is your favorite grilled burger wine?

by Carl Eppig » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:30 pm

I used a bottle of Quail Ridge Cab to soak a couple of lbs of raspberries in for a week. Now that the berries are gone, I'll drink the remains with my next burger.
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