
Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
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Carl Eppig
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
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Melissa Priestley wrote:- Stop and smell the rosé
- Any kind of pun on the word Zinfandel, usually in relation to "sin": mortal zin, zinful, seven deadly zins...
Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
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Bill Hooper wrote:"The property is right next door to/across the road from F*CKING CHATEAU __________"
Daniel Rogov
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Melissa Priestley wrote:This hand-crafted wine..
Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
Edmonton, AB, Canada
Daniel Rogov wrote:I wonder if you are not mixing two phenomena - the cliche and the pun. Playing with words such as the examples you give for Zinfandel is simply punning and in that I agree with Oscar Levant that "indeed the pun is the lowest form of humor, unless you thought of it first".
The cliche on the other hand is are more of concern, especially when taken as something that has been said so often that it has been virtually beaten to death. On the other hand, however, cliches often represent truisms......
Every one of the above might well be taken as a cliche and/or of pure and unadulterated bull. Much depends on just whom is saying it and what his/her background and track record might be.
Jenise
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
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Melissa Priestley wrote:
Wow, apparently my Canadian roots are showing, since that's the first example that popped into my head - and I don't even like hockey!
JC (NC)
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David Mc
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TomHill wrote:To me, the classic cliche is:
"Warm days and cool nights......".
Brian Gilp wrote:TomHill wrote:To me, the classic cliche is:
"Warm days and cool nights......".
I still don't understand this. If cool nights are the best than why are rocky soils that abosorb the heat of the day and provide warmth at night also good. Seems to be a contradiction that no one has ever explained to me in terms that makes sense.
Dale Williams
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David McIntire wrote:"We will sell no wine before it's time"
Jenise
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Melissa Priestley
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Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:04 pm
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Rahsaan wrote:Cool nights may be best in the warmer areas of places like California but rocky soils that absorb warmth may be best in cooler climates that struggle to get ripeness.
Other elements that make Rhône wines distinctive are soil and climate. Climactically few places in grape growing regions have the dramatic diurnal shifts (day to night difference in temperature) that the Rhône region experiences. The region typically sees a 40℉/22℃ change in temperature. Many of the types of grapes that grow here benefit from the slow ripening that the shifts provide. As for the dirt, the soils are mineral-rich and stony, more so in the south. Here one finds the famous galets which are found in great numbers around Châteauneuf-du-pape. Galets are rocks about the size of a fist that cover the ground and are placed at the base of vines. Throughout the day they absorb heat then keep the ground warm over night.
Brian Gilp wrote:Rahsaan wrote:Cool nights may be best in the warmer areas of places like California but rocky soils that absorb warmth may be best in cooler climates that struggle to get ripeness.
I don't disagree but I rarely see it used like that. More often I see something like this:Other elements that make Rhône wines distinctive are soil and climate. Climactically few places in grape growing regions have the dramatic diurnal shifts (day to night difference in temperature) that the Rhône region experiences. The region typically sees a 40℉/22℃ change in temperature. Many of the types of grapes that grow here benefit from the slow ripening that the shifts provide. As for the dirt, the soils are mineral-rich and stony, more so in the south. Here one finds the famous galets which are found in great numbers around Châteauneuf-du-pape. Galets are rocks about the size of a fist that cover the ground and are placed at the base of vines. Throughout the day they absorb heat then keep the ground warm over night.
From http://www.nativefoodandwine.com/features-journal/californias-rhone.html
Steve Slatcher
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