Mark Lipton wrote:Since moving to the Midwest 19 years ago, I have become a fairly regular customer of Sam's Wine Warehouse in Chicago. Over those years, I would estimate that I have purchased several tens of thousands of dollars of wines from Sam's, especially during those years when Indiana was a "felony state" and shipping into IN was difficult at best. Looking at my cellar today, many of the Ridge Zins, Bordeaux and Chateauneuf were purchased at Sam's (their selection of wines from the Loire, Germany and Austria was never good).
Jenise
FLDG Dishwasher
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:45 pm
The Pacific Northest Westest
Tom Troiano wrote:Except for the shippping issue it sounds like the new owners "did the right thing". Why stop doing business with them? and why didn't you pick it up yourself?
Salil Benegal wrote:On that last point; their loss when they got rid of Howard Silverman. Thank heavens he still kept providing us with some amazing picks and advice on those areas from his own store after that.
Mark Lipton wrote:Salil Benegal wrote:Indeed, Salil, I see my business going toward Howard's, Binney's, HDH and perhaps Flickinger when I'm looking for wine in Chicago. The real shame about this turn of events is that my favorite store in Indianapolis was sold off to a big commercial chain a couple of years ago and is but a shadow of its former self. Oh, well...
Ryan Maderak wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:Salil Benegal wrote:Indeed, Salil, I see my business going toward Howard's, Binney's, HDH and perhaps Flickinger when I'm looking for wine in Chicago. The real shame about this turn of events is that my favorite store in Indianapolis was sold off to a big commercial chain a couple of years ago and is but a shadow of its former self. Oh, well...
My research adviser is a big fan of Sam's, so I sent him a link to this thread, and he commented that he wasn't surprise, having noted the decline as someone who shops only in the brick-and-morter store.
I've ordered a few things from Flickinger and been very pleased. What shop in Indianapolis are you referring to?
Hoke
Achieving Wine Immortality
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Sat Apr 15, 2006 1:07 am
Portland, OR
Hoke wrote:This is all a shame, Mark, as I remember Sam's in its golden years---when it looked like a warehouse, because that's what it was, and all they had was stacks of boxes on a concrete floor, and if you wanted anything they had to send it down from the upper floor on the conveyor system.
Mark Lipton wrote:I just drank a bottle of Jadot Ursules '93 that I bagged then
ChefJCarey
Wine guru
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Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:06 pm
Noir Side of the Moon
But all good things must come to an end. I survived the demise of the Berkeley Co-Op, long may it rest, the loss of Cody's Books from Telegraph Ave. and the loss of Rather Ripped Records, too. I'll find a way to survive this as well.
ChefJCarey wrote:But all good things must come to an end. I survived the demise of the Berkeley Co-Op, long may it rest, the loss of Cody's Books from Telegraph Ave. and the loss of Rather Ripped Records, too. I'll find a way to survive this as well.
All of which were flourishing when I lived in Berkeley. The Co-Op credit union actually made me a cash flow loan at one of my restaurants.
Steve Kirsch wrote:Mark Lipton wrote:I just drank a bottle of Jadot Ursules '93 that I bagged then
Mark, what was your take on the '93 Ursules? I have a pair of bottles in the cellar--time to try one?
Salil Benegal wrote:Hope you don't mind me bringing this up again Mark, but it seems Sam's really is struggling right now - the new store they opened in the South Loop at Roosevelt has just been closed down.
Mark Lipton wrote:Today, I took receipt of the wines, thankfully showing no evidence of any heat damage.
Mark Lipton wrote:Salil Benegal wrote:Hope you don't mind me bringing this up again Mark, but it seems Sam's really is struggling right now - the new store they opened in the South Loop at Roosevelt has just been closed down.
Wow. This may be for the best, though, Salil, if it allows the new owners to concentrate on their core business. I'm always leery of rapid expansions of businesses that I like.
Mark Lipton
Dan Donahue wrote:I also did a lot of business there in year's past. There were some great deals, but the storage conditions were not always optimal. Some of the warehouse sale "bargains" that I've tried over the years seemed heat damaged.
David Lole wrote:I once dumped a retailer for an entirely different reason.
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