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Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Jenise
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Robin Garr wrote:several millennia of humankind as an accompaniment to meals in a culture in which a meal assumes a substantial portion of animal protein..
Carl Eppig
Our Maine man
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Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:38 pm
Middleton, NH, USA
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
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Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Rahsaan wrote:I agree that certain wines show well when accompanied with meat, but I'm wondering about the historical accuracy of this statement? Because I thought that having meals on a regular basis with "a substantial portion of animal protein" were a fairly recent (i.e. 20th century) development?
Dale Williams wrote:I don't think so. By Pepys time a man was considered very poor if only he had meat once a week. Now the very poor were a fair percentage of the population, but probably not drinking wine.
I think rural France has a pretty long tradition of meat with most meals..
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
11757
Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
Dale Williams wrote:the idea that whatever food was grown in a certain area, well then the wine from that area is a perfect match. Often there are some great matches that way, but there are flubs too, and frankly main determinant of a style of wine for a particular area is probably what produced the most fruit there (believe me, no one was controlling yield in 17th century).
My guess is 90% of the beef in the 18th century was boiled
Dale Williams
Compassionate Connoisseur
11757
Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Dobbs Ferry, NY (NYC metro)
AlexR wrote:I feel it would be a sin to serve a *great* red wine with a vegetarian meal.
Best regards,
Alex R.
AlexR wrote:If I (knowingly) had a vegetarian to dinner...I don't think I would pull out one of my best bottles...
AlexR wrote:I do not think that believe that there is such a thing as great vegetarian cuisine to go with correspondingly great wines..
AlexR wrote:Rahssan,
My point is this: a wine like 1986 Lafite deserves fine food, and I cannot accept that a bunch of mushrooms or a nut roast fits the bill.
Best regards,
Alex R.
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